▲ 481 ▼ What is your opinion on the morality of bringing a child into this world? (lemmy.world) submitted 5 months ago by DependentFeature3028@lemmy.world to c/GenerationZ@lemmy.world 212 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] applebusch@lemmy.blahaj.zone -7 points 5 months ago (5 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] pulsewidth@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago (4 children) Whu? There is literally no eugenics in Idiocracy. Eugenics = forced attempts to modify the genome since at least the times of ancient Greece via infanticide, murdering or sterilizing 'low quality' groups, paying desired groups to have more children, to modern literal selective breeding via government body mandates in Nazi eugenics etc. New eugenics / 'liberal eugenics' = informed choice via technology eg scanning for downs syndrome in embryos and allowing parents the informed choice of termination, genome editing, etc. Which we are clearly not talking about within context, but also is not present or suggested in Idiocracy. What doesn't fit into any definition of eugenics is telling people "hey if only the dumb people keep breeding, that will not end well". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Garbagio@lemmy.zip -5 points 5 months ago (3 children) The belief that intelligence is a heritable trait is a core tenet of eugenics, and is the very basis of the setting of Idiocracy. In the film, corporate capture and the gutting of the US government via bread and circus tactics didn't create a "stupid" society; stupid people overbreeding caused a societal drop in intelligence, which then created the issues. The film gets cause and effect backwards, if only to adhere to the eugenicist pretext. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] athatet@lemmy.zip 8 points 5 months ago I think it’s less about stupid people breeding stupid people and more about the stupid people not teaching their children anything which then makes them also stupid. permalink fedilink source parent [–] GaMEChld@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago Things don't need to be genetic to be inheritable. Behaviors, morals, lessons, traditions etc are also inheritable. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Valorie12@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago* Stupidity is not genetic, but that doesn't mean it can't be passed down. Hence why the movie still works. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pulsewidth@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago (4 children) Whu? There is literally no eugenics in Idiocracy. Eugenics = forced attempts to modify the genome since at least the times of ancient Greece via infanticide, murdering or sterilizing 'low quality' groups, paying desired groups to have more children, to modern literal selective breeding via government body mandates in Nazi eugenics etc. New eugenics / 'liberal eugenics' = informed choice via technology eg scanning for downs syndrome in embryos and allowing parents the informed choice of termination, genome editing, etc. Which we are clearly not talking about within context, but also is not present or suggested in Idiocracy. What doesn't fit into any definition of eugenics is telling people "hey if only the dumb people keep breeding, that will not end well". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Garbagio@lemmy.zip -5 points 5 months ago (3 children) The belief that intelligence is a heritable trait is a core tenet of eugenics, and is the very basis of the setting of Idiocracy. In the film, corporate capture and the gutting of the US government via bread and circus tactics didn't create a "stupid" society; stupid people overbreeding caused a societal drop in intelligence, which then created the issues. The film gets cause and effect backwards, if only to adhere to the eugenicist pretext. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] athatet@lemmy.zip 8 points 5 months ago I think it’s less about stupid people breeding stupid people and more about the stupid people not teaching their children anything which then makes them also stupid. permalink fedilink source parent [–] GaMEChld@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago Things don't need to be genetic to be inheritable. Behaviors, morals, lessons, traditions etc are also inheritable. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Valorie12@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago* Stupidity is not genetic, but that doesn't mean it can't be passed down. Hence why the movie still works. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Garbagio@lemmy.zip -5 points 5 months ago (3 children) The belief that intelligence is a heritable trait is a core tenet of eugenics, and is the very basis of the setting of Idiocracy. In the film, corporate capture and the gutting of the US government via bread and circus tactics didn't create a "stupid" society; stupid people overbreeding caused a societal drop in intelligence, which then created the issues. The film gets cause and effect backwards, if only to adhere to the eugenicist pretext. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] athatet@lemmy.zip 8 points 5 months ago I think it’s less about stupid people breeding stupid people and more about the stupid people not teaching their children anything which then makes them also stupid. permalink fedilink source parent [–] GaMEChld@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago Things don't need to be genetic to be inheritable. Behaviors, morals, lessons, traditions etc are also inheritable. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Valorie12@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago* Stupidity is not genetic, but that doesn't mean it can't be passed down. Hence why the movie still works. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] athatet@lemmy.zip 8 points 5 months ago I think it’s less about stupid people breeding stupid people and more about the stupid people not teaching their children anything which then makes them also stupid. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] GaMEChld@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago Things don't need to be genetic to be inheritable. Behaviors, morals, lessons, traditions etc are also inheritable. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Valorie12@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago* Stupidity is not genetic, but that doesn't mean it can't be passed down. Hence why the movie still works. permalink fedilink source parent