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What is your opinion on the morality of bringing a child into this world? (lemmy.world)
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[–] 66 points 5 months ago (11 children)

All the smart and empathetic people deciding to stop having children on ethical/logical grounds was a major premise of the film Idiocracy.

The film demonstrated it to be a very bad strategy.

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago

    And yet all it took was a few decades of indoctrination and disinvestment in education to get there in real life. Almost like we have more pressing things to worry about than the speed at which this effect - if real - could turn into an actual problem.

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  • [–] 10 points 5 months ago

    I'd rather have the bad strategy then to put a child into this world that is going downhill fast.

    Because the bad strategy means my kid doesn't have to suffer through it, I already consider 90% of my days a suffering and it hasn't gotten better in the past 40 years. No amount of hard work, studying, gaining knowledge, doing the right thing has improved it.

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  • [+] -7 points 5 months ago (5 children)
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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    Whu?

    There is literally no eugenics in Idiocracy.

    Eugenics = forced attempts to modify the genome since at least the times of ancient Greece via infanticide, murdering or sterilizing 'low quality' groups, paying desired groups to have more children, to modern literal selective breeding via government body mandates in Nazi eugenics etc.

    New eugenics / 'liberal eugenics' = informed choice via technology eg scanning for downs syndrome in embryos and allowing parents the informed choice of termination, genome editing, etc. Which we are clearly not talking about within context, but also is not present or suggested in Idiocracy.

    What doesn't fit into any definition of eugenics is telling people "hey if only the dumb people keep breeding, that will not end well".

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  • [–] -5 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    The belief that intelligence is a heritable trait is a core tenet of eugenics, and is the very basis of the setting of Idiocracy. In the film, corporate capture and the gutting of the US government via bread and circus tactics didn't create a "stupid" society; stupid people overbreeding caused a societal drop in intelligence, which then created the issues. The film gets cause and effect backwards, if only to adhere to the eugenicist pretext.

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