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[+] -6 points 1 year ago (6 children)

That's been well known for over 50 years, why do you think now, all of a sudden, this is becoming an issue now ? This is because there are new coatings, silicon based PTFE-free coatings and PTFE-based metamaterial that combine titanium, ceramic and/or PCD.

As the manufacturer invest in this new technology, they either restrict PTFE commodity manufacturers out of their market or merely stop funding lobbying that protects the PTFE.

This is not a conspiracy theory, simple emergent interests that do not require a coordination.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago*

    Abestos was used for millenias, and was known the miners a thousands years ago would succumb to a mysterious illness after working years in the mines... and it was just banned in the US in checks notes. Last year. Must've been big fiberglass behind it!

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Cool.

    But the reason you're being downvoted, is that instead of commenting this, you made a comment that sounded like you were dismissing the dangers of PFAS, and dismissing it as the modern-day equivalent to lead, asbestos, and the like.

    Which is what it is, and you clearly agree that it is.

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  • [+] -8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    The difference with leaded gasoline and asbestos, is that everyone everywhere was being exposed to those.

    And the current trajectory regarding PFAS is, a complete ban https://www.wcl.org.uk/transitioning-to-a-pfas-free-economy.asp

    But they're not a problem everywhere, they're a problem of containment at the manufacturer.

    This is what sloppy statements like plastics and teflon are tantamount to the widespread lead and mercury poisoning. That's just not the case but acting like it is, is exactly how industry initiate regulatory capture.

    I see it the same as the big tech giants pushing hard FOR regulation, because ultimately the rules, written with their impetus will become their motes and we will all pay for it.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    But they're not a problem everywhere, they're a problem of containment at the manufacturer.

    So screw the local environment and the people that live there? If the manufacturer could capture and destroy pfoa's before release, why havent they done so? If they could and didnt, then they brought the ban unpon themselves.

    This is like arguing "oh, but the oil spill was in a remote part of the ocean and would never effect my house, so keep on drilling baby!"

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