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[+] -16 points 6 months ago* (4 children)

Unpopular opinion but. A company doesn't owe you open access to their tech or software.

Bambu spends an enormous amount of money on r&d.

They have incredibly high quality printers that are intuitive and easy to use.

They collect data to improve their machines.

You can opt out of that collection.

The replacement parts are cheap. Comparable to other brands.

And you can buy non Bambu parts. That fit. But why when official high quality parts are available for same price.

I don't know why everyone is so mad that Bambu won't let them tinker with the software. Or "jail break it".

Why would you want to on a Bambu. ? It already works optimally.

if you want a tinker printer than get one that's open.

Most people don't need that. They just want to print things.

I get that people think "it's my device and I should be able to jail break it if I want". Ok

Then buy a device that lets you.

It would be different if Bambu printers were crap and needed tinkering but wouldn't allow it. Or they lied about being open. But that's not the situation.

Bambu has been up front since the begining that their printers would not be open.

They never mislead about that.

Why are you mad about something they made clear from the begining ?

And yes I know they used open source data to base a lot of their tech on. (Yeah and Linux is used a lot for proprietary stuff too. It is what it is). But they have proprietary software and hardware now that was a result of their own investments into research and development.

You can't hold it against a company for not giving away advancements they made to their competitors.

With so much unethical and anti-privacy , companies blocking right to repair. And all the shitty tech companies out there, it's hard for me to take the complaints against Bambu as anything other than grifting and online created drama.

Their products were always closed. They never said they would be open.

Use a different brand if that's a problem for you.

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  • [–] 17 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Didnt they sign a contract to make it open the moment they used open source Code as their base?

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  • [+] -11 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    I don't think so. Open source stuff doesn't usually require that for using it as a base.

    Android OS is based on open source.

    Did Microsoft or whoever owns it, sign a contract saying they promise to keep it open since it's based on linux ?

    I don't think it works like that.

    Open source base just means you can't charge money for it.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    Much of Android is open source. That's why AOSP, LineageOS, Graphene, etc can exist. Google Play Services is not part of the kernel.

    Windows existed long before Linux. Or do you think MS develops Android?

    Open source base just means you can't charge money for it.

    That is very inaccurate. GPL3 specifically says all derivative work is also open source.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    No one is arguing that Bambu has the right to keep their sources closed. That is NOBODY's argument. Instead, you've not addressed the main argument and the point stated by Jeff - they threatened the open source developer with lawsuit and asked him to remove the code. The code doesn't violate anyting. At the same time, THEY based their whole product on opensource software. That makes them hypocrites and shitty people. That's the argument. Your post is long and doesn't address it at all.

    But let me also push back on some of the things you said.

    Bambu spends an enormous amount of money on r&d.

    So does Prusa. And Creality. And many others. They were all open source. They are now being very cautious about what they publish. It may not be Bambu's fault, but they certainly started the trend. It looks a lot like the ol' microsoft eee tactics again.

    The replacement parts are cheap. Comparable to other brands.

    They are also non-standard and not accessible to others to make and thus - the only guarantee they will stay cheap is their good word. Which is not worth much IMO. Cause I don't think they will allow competition to make the replacements without licenses.

    Why would you want to on a Bambu. ? It already works optimally.

    To customize it for your needs? What if you have no internet access on your print farm for a day and you require Bambu cloud services to work to be able to manage it? What if when you bought the printer, you could use it in LAN mode, but now after an update, you no longer can? Is it your fault still? This really happened already.

    if you want a tinker printer than get one that’s open. Most people don’t need that. They just want to print things.

    Fair point. But they did change the terms of usage after the sale once before. They're gonna do it again. This alone makes them shitty and unfit for a new printer purchase for me.

    Use a different brand if that’s a problem for you.

    I hope most people will. But again, this wasn't the original argument. Though even without the original argument, there are still reasons not to buy Bambu.

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