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Proof of AI-assisted political profiling by Unruffled @ lemmy.dbzer0.com Discussion & Question (join.piefed.social)
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https://s.faf-pb.xyz/lXxek was the old url but they took it down - I have a copy at https://join.piefed.social/wp-content/uploads/2026/05/evidence-llm-used-for-banning.txt

The output from the LLM was provided as proof that someone needed to be banned.

I didn't want to do this but my hand was forced by their dissembling, minimization and bullshit. Note how the output includes a nice big logo with a slogan and ascii graphics - this was not a one-off experiment, this is an app they were proud to call their own.

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[–] 18 points 6 months ago* (3 children)

By using a corporate owned AI?

Qwen is FOSS under Apache License 2.0.

I don’t mind people using AI

My apologies, I must have misread or skimmed over a part here.

There is nothing un-anarchist about using such a piece of technology, especially when it's being deployed to catch genocide deniers.

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago* (2 children)

    My apologies, I must have misread or skimmed over a part here.

    Alas, it has become the norm, to skip 'a part here'.

    There is nothing un-anarchist about using such a piece of technology, especially when it’s being deployed to catch genocide deniers.

    Don't waste your time throwing slogans at me, I'm like made out of some kind of ideological teflon and no slogan will stick with me (even the ones I may agree with).

    Instead, of telling me what I should think (to be right) about AI and anarchy, have you even considered opening the Proudhon book I mentioned? It's in the public domain, easy to find. And maybe try to understand why an obviously out of touch old fellow like myself may have hinted at the possibility that, maybe, using AI-powered tools could not sit that well with an anarchist ideology and the way it supposed to stand against some very fundamental notions? Or is it simply that I must be wrong given the fact that I dare not agree with you or with someone you agree with? If that is so, that's fine by me all I have left to do is to wish you a nice day.

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  • [–] 13 points 6 months ago* (1 child)

    Instead of telling myself and others that we couldn't possibly be anarchists because our view on the subject are different to yours and suggesting someone read a 270 page book to understand your POV, why don't you summarise your reasoning?

    Is it that AI is able to free up our menial labour?

    Is it that is infringes on corporate copyright and steals from them?

    Is it that it's being used in a manner that harms the finances of AI companies who charge for this service?

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  • [–] 9 points 6 months ago

    Instead of telling myself and others that we couldn’t possibly be anarchists because our view on the subject are different to yours and suggesting someone read a 270 page book, why don’t you summarise your reasoning?

    Have you noted the many words I put in italics in previous reply? Maybe there was a reason I insisted so heavily on those. And, once again, don't waste your time (and mine) trying to put words in my mouth that I've not said. The only reaction this might end up triggering (you've got some leeway) is in me deciding to ignore all your messages from that point on.

    As for why I don't summarize the book for you and expect you to "read a 270 pages book"? Thx a lot for asking.

    We live in the age of "summaries". People, old and young, don't want to read anymore. They want an instant summary of those books so they feel like they know it without having to actually put any effort reading it. So they feel confident they can get good grades when there is an exam on that book (the only ones to blame here being the educative systems and the teachers, not the kids abusing the system as they're acting quite smart by doing so). Or feel like they can knowingly talk about that book with their peers.
    People who want to use that shortcut are more than welcome to go that road if that's what they really want, you are more than welcome to go find yourself a summary of the book, even though I think it's a sad mistake. You can even ask one of the many AI to do summarize it to you (maybe this could give you enough motivation to start reading it?)

    Just don't expect me to summarize the book for you for the simple reasons that I think one must be willing to read a book not just act like if they had (it's sad but it's ok to not read at all), and then because I think most of the value one can get out of reading lies in the act of reading the actual book, taking the required time to read it and not in the act of getting a ready to memorize summary of it.

    Instead, what I'm willing to do, if you ever decide to read it and put in the work, it is to take time to discuss it at length with you, discuss any question or objection you might raise... to the best of my own limited abilities.

    Obviously, that is just my opinion, feel free to ignore it.

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