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[–] 148 points 6 months ago (17 children)

Note that rebellions against authority aren't ever really acknowledged in US education unless its a rebellion for worse authoritarianism, like the Confederacy.

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  • [–] 20 points 6 months ago (14 children)

    That's just not true. The Haymarket Riot is widely taught in history classes. I don't think there's a single history class that covers the 20th century and fails to mention the Great Depression and the New Deal. They might not spend a lot of time on things like the Bonus Army, but you can't really cover the Great Depression without mentioning rebellions and unrest.

    It's true that they like to talk a lot more about the genius of Henry Ford and give him credit for the 5 day work week, and not mention all the labour movements and strikes that led to the 8 hour day and 5 day week. But, it's more a matter of what's emphasized rather than outright censorship.

    Besides, the whole founding of the US is framed as a rebellion against authority. They barely even mention that the founding fathers were almost all extremely rich nepo babies. The founding story of the US could be taught as a bunch of rich white men who deserved to lead because of their prowess as capitalists taking power from a distant king who was demanding a bailout due to his financial mismanagement. That would probably even be closer to the truth. But, it's framed as a bunch of plucky men taking power back for the people from an autocrat.

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  • [–] 28 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    where are you that the Haymarket Square Incident is covered? i didn't learn about it until after college

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  • [–] 8 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    It is in the AP US History curriculum under topic 6.7. If you're taking the AP class, you'll probably hear about it. If not, it would depend on what your state and local school district wants to teach.

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  • [–] 26 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Right, so not necessarily widely at all.

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago

    Yeah, but it would explain why a lot of people may have heard about it in high school, even if they grew up in a conservative part of the country.

    I would expect that Lemmy skews more towards students on the college track than the national average, which is why a collection of anecdotes here may be different than the national average.

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  • [–] 22 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    My high school American Literature class mentioned the unrest of the Great Depression more than my history classes did.

    American history class quickly rushed past (or skipped outright) everything after the Civil War to get to WWI, the Great Depression pretty much just as a leadup to WWII, WWII for like two months, then a little bit of the Civil Rights movement.

    In college we spent a lot more time on those gaps, which is what all the "liberal brainwashing" is about.

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  • [–] 11 points 6 months ago

    And the civil rights movement is mostly about peaceful protests, like sit ins. It'll spend a long time talking about MLK, but, at best, mentions Malcolm X, but doesn't go into any detail, unless it's to say it's wrong.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

    I was pissed when I got to college and learned the truth about the black panthers, police history, labor history, etc. it's not ALL bad either. Vigilance committees in some places were actually pretty okay by some standards. The Montana Vigilance Committee for example. Still, it wasn't even college. It was the internet. It was teaching myself by listening to podcasts, reading books, watching videos on old YT that were more than 2 minutes long.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (5 children)

    ...especially since the 8 hour workday movement started in Australia

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (4 children)

    I'm sure that's the story they tell in Australia.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (3 children)

    March 1856 predates ol' ford by quite a bit.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (2 children)

    What does Ford have to do with anything?

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago

    I graduated high school in the late 90s in white christian suburbia USA. It's definitely unnerving how often I get to go down a rabbit hole about events that happened before I was born but are still new to me.

    That's especially true when the "rebellion" is something other than war or occasionally civil rights. Anything related to labor or worker's rights just didn't come up.

    But then I had to keep learning about the world from as many sources as possible, and instead of fulfilling my destiny to be an angry unwell rich republican, here I am on Lemmy and spending more time thinking about my family, hobbies, and farm chores than about work. I use Debian btw.

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