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[–] 13 points 7 months ago (26 children)

Gaming is cheaper than ever. Just don’t buy new games. I haven’t bought a new AAA game in decades. There are thousands and thousands of games you can play for free or nearly free.

It’s like music. You can listen to lifetimes worth of music for free or nearly free. The only expensive thing is going to some fancy concert and giving a ton of money to Ticketmaster.

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  • [–] 14 points 7 months ago (11 children)

    Well, you still need something to play it on. And since GPUs and RAM costs about a child and a half these days, I'd say it's quite expensive.

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  • [–] 9 points 7 months ago* (2 children)

    Sure, though you don’t need a state of the art PC to play 90% of the games ever made. These days I play a lot of my games on an old 3DS (hacked to the gills)!

    I also have a huge steam library of games, many of which I bought for next to nothing in huge bundles during past sales. Many of them I still haven’t played! They would run fine on a 10 year old PC though.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (1 child)

    You do have a point there, yes. My backlog of games I want to play is ... Long ...

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago

    The AAA game industry wants to leverage FOMO to keep you engaged, keep you buying the newest game, forgetting about your backlog.

    If they had their way, older games would no longer be playable, just to force people to keep buying new games.

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  • [+] -7 points 7 months ago (7 children)

    Not if you use geforce now, that's easy cheaper than buying a new pc

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    Short term it's cheaper, but to an enthusiast the lag, and the lack of ownership really rankles.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    I've never had an issue with the lag.

    The games are owned outside of gfn.

    I've never lost access to any game yet.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    That's cool, where do you buy your games?

    Even streaming from my desktop to TV downstairs using ethernet is noticeable to me! It's alright for some games but not great for fast stuff.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child)

    Steam, green gaming man, epic, etc. multi player stuff maybe, I don't think I've tried that but for single payer, I've seen no obvious lag unless maybe use WiFi instead of ethernet.

    What cat is your ethernet cable?

    The latency added by a Cat 6 cable itself is imperceptible, typically adding only about 0.5 microseconds (0.0005 ms) over a full 100-metre run. For comparison, electricity travels through the cable at roughly 200 million metres per second, meaning it would take a cable over 100 miles long just to add 1 millisecond of "ping".

    So cat6 which a lot of people use some new imperceptible. Maybe there's an issue else where on your network

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago*

    It could well be the rendering step on my PC. Maybe the router is a bit old too. I can't remember whether cat 5 or 6 but as you say it's unlikely to be the cable in isolation. It was playing Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (1 child)

    Gross!

    AI nonsense makes owning your own computer too expensive and your solution is to reward the same assholes by paying a subscription to use their hardware with bonus lag? Have you no shame?

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago

    It's better than what I could afford.

    It's pretty astounding actually. I have zero lag and the graphic fidelity is exceptional.

    I couldn't afford a PC system even before the price rises. So this is the bestway to experience high quality gaming for the majority of people.

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago (10 children)

    You can buy new AAA games. Be /patientgamers. Just wait a few weeks or months after release and they almost always go on sale when companies want to boost server numbers to make quarterly reports look good. I haven’t paid release price for any AAA game in years. And it should go without saying: Do not preorder!

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  • [–] 0 points 7 months ago (7 children)

    Brother, this isnt 2004.

    AAA games rarely go on sale anymore, Dragon Quest Builders 2 is like 7 years old, and still 50 bucks, and last sale it went down to 25. 25 for a 7 year old game is just brutal absurdity.

    and I just use that as an example, its the same almost across the entire board.

    The only saving grace in gaming right now is indie games. Which are typically affordable.

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  • [–] 8 points 7 months ago (6 children)

    Literally BF6 is on sale right now for 40% off. It was 50% off on some locations on Black Friday. It was 30% off 4 months ago. It was released early October. That’s 4 sales in 7 months for a AAA game.

    I’ve bought Stray, Cyberpunk 2077, GTA, Elite: Dangeorus, Borderlands series, and many others all on sale and even a couple games for free.

    I can’t help it if your particular games don’t get discounted, but telling me AAA games rarely do is completely wrong.

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  • [–] -3 points 7 months ago (5 children)

    Yeah, and you are conveniently skipping over the most relevant part.

    Lowest price history for cyberpunk 2077 is 20 bucks. 20 bucks for a 5 year old game is ridiculously overpriced.

    Grand Theft Auto never goes under 15 dollars, which is over priced for how old the game is.

    I personally wouldnt consider borderlands AAA games, but congratulations, you found the one game that had an actual legitimate sale and age related price drop with Elite: Dangerous, with the base games lowest sale price recorded as 2 bucks. WIth it currently on sale for 5. for a 11 year old game. Which is what the prices should be for an old game, and what all the other games should be doing once they are out of their content window.

    Also, you don't have to be so goddamn dismissive and hostile. I gave an example of my argument. Did you expect me to spend 3 weeks researching so i could produce a scientific paper detailing every game that is over priced?

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    There was nothing hostile in what I said. Maybe you don’t like being proven wrog? I didn’t expect anything of you much less a hyperbolic research paper, but nonetheless you chose hyperbole and shuffled the goalposts instead of actually continuing the discussion. I never said when I bought the games, but convenient of you to arbitrarily decide how old a game is before it’s not worth it for you. Nonetheless they’re on sale by your own admission, so that blows your “rarely” out of the water while you ignore BF6 being repeatedly on sale. But I suppose you’ll make excuses about that too?

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  • [+] 0 points 7 months ago (3 children)
  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (2 children)

    Are you the thread nanny?

    games are more expensive in general

    Straight up nonsense. Complain all you want, but if the cost of games even approached parity with inflation they would be FAR more expensive than they are right now.

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  • [+] 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)
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