ATS1312 comments on Patriotism vs Nationalism

[–] ATS1312@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Patriotism is being a Simp for a State that doesn't give a fuck about you.

National Parks

Stolen indigenous land?

innovation

So... Unless you can define what this means, I have to assume it involves Chinese manufacturing.

freedom of speech

Unless you're on the actual Left that Democrats want to suppress and Republicans want to execute.

actually admitting our racism and bigotry [ . . . ] even if failing

Yeah... Uh... Im going to have to disagree - I see empty gestures made out of a fetish for decorum, which is a holdover from an even older Conservatism. That's several history doctorates of a rabbit hole to unpack.

a diverse population

Finally, something good! I can get there with "love your neighbor" instead. No State-simping necessary

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[–] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone -4 points 1 year ago* (4 children)

In a democracy, the state is not a formless, uninfluenced entity. It's the way it is because the people are horrible. The state cares as much as any human in it cares for you. So no, don't love thy neighbor, they're the cause of this lol. Diversity is strength and great food but don't mistake that with it meaning they are necessarily good people worthy of love

Unless you're on the actual Left that Democrats want to suppress and Republicans want to execute.

"Want to" is not when your freedom of speech ends man. No, the dems are not taking away your freedom of speech

Yeah... Uh... Im going to have to disagree - I see empty gestures made out of a fetish for decorum, which is a holdover from an even older Conservatism.

I live in an area that is putting actual money into balancing the scales but yeah sure it's just a empty words ~~~

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[–] ATS1312@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

In a democracy, the state is not a formless, uninfluenced entity. It's the way it is because the people are horrible.

No deference to the systems we grow up in? No ability to understand context?

The US is not a Democracy.

Congrats. We're all shit. All of us. You and me too. GO TO THERAPY.

Want to" is not when your freedom of speech ends man. No, the dems are not taking away your freedom of speech

I didn't realize all I had to do was "talk" to have my material needs met. To have my ideas as part of the political conversation.

Wait, I do that, to people, face to face. We still have ghost jobs polluting our employment statistics, and blackshirts on the streets abducting neighbors.

I live in an area that is putting actual money into balancing the scales but yeah sure it's just a empty words ~

Congrats. How did you get there? I need you to understand that is a privilege not all of us have. And without further detail, I'm curious about how many of your neighbors face a different reality.

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[–] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone -4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The US is not a Democracy

Technically correct in that it's a Republic. Same thing applies

No deference to the systems we grow up in? No ability to understand context?

People who can soley understand the system they grew up and not improve it are the issue, yes

I didn't realize all I had to do was "talk" to have my material needs met. To have my ideas as part of the political conversation.

Freedom of speech is quite literally about immaterial needs, not material ones. There is no right or reason to have a right to include all views in politics.

How did you get there? I need you to understand that is a privilege not all of us have.

By voting? People voted to spend government money to even harms done in the past. That's not privilege; that's a choice made when voting. Not sure what you mean by neighbors having a different reality, my neighbors are getting bettered by good governance because we voted for good politicians

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