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Patriotism vs Nationalism (lemmy.world)
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[–] -3 points 1 year ago (14 children)

National parks, innovation, highest level of freedom of speech (not anymore, lol, but ya know). Actually admitting to our racism and bigotry instead of pretending it doesn't exist like European countries do, and instead trying to tackle the issues. Even if failing. A diverse population.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Patriotism is being a Simp for a State that doesn't give a fuck about you.

    National Parks

    Stolen indigenous land?

    innovation

    So... Unless you can define what this means, I have to assume it involves Chinese manufacturing.

    freedom of speech

    Unless you're on the actual Left that Democrats want to suppress and Republicans want to execute.

    actually admitting our racism and bigotry [ . . . ] even if failing

    Yeah... Uh... Im going to have to disagree - I see empty gestures made out of a fetish for decorum, which is a holdover from an even older Conservatism. That's several history doctorates of a rabbit hole to unpack.

    a diverse population

    Finally, something good! I can get there with "love your neighbor" instead. No State-simping necessary

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  • [–] -4 points 1 year ago* (4 children)

    In a democracy, the state is not a formless, uninfluenced entity. It's the way it is because the people are horrible. The state cares as much as any human in it cares for you. So no, don't love thy neighbor, they're the cause of this lol. Diversity is strength and great food but don't mistake that with it meaning they are necessarily good people worthy of love

    Unless you're on the actual Left that Democrats want to suppress and Republicans want to execute.

    "Want to" is not when your freedom of speech ends man. No, the dems are not taking away your freedom of speech

    Yeah... Uh... Im going to have to disagree - I see empty gestures made out of a fetish for decorum, which is a holdover from an even older Conservatism.

    I live in an area that is putting actual money into balancing the scales but yeah sure it's just a empty words ~~~

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    In a democracy, the state is not a formless, uninfluenced entity. It's the way it is because the people are horrible.

    No deference to the systems we grow up in? No ability to understand context?

    The US is not a Democracy.

    Congrats. We're all shit. All of us. You and me too. GO TO THERAPY.

    Want to" is not when your freedom of speech ends man. No, the dems are not taking away your freedom of speech

    I didn't realize all I had to do was "talk" to have my material needs met. To have my ideas as part of the political conversation.

    Wait, I do that, to people, face to face. We still have ghost jobs polluting our employment statistics, and blackshirts on the streets abducting neighbors.

    I live in an area that is putting actual money into balancing the scales but yeah sure it's just a empty words ~

    Congrats. How did you get there? I need you to understand that is a privilege not all of us have. And without further detail, I'm curious about how many of your neighbors face a different reality.

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  • [–] -4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    The US is not a Democracy

    Technically correct in that it's a Republic. Same thing applies

    No deference to the systems we grow up in? No ability to understand context?

    People who can soley understand the system they grew up and not improve it are the issue, yes

    I didn't realize all I had to do was "talk" to have my material needs met. To have my ideas as part of the political conversation.

    Freedom of speech is quite literally about immaterial needs, not material ones. There is no right or reason to have a right to include all views in politics.

    How did you get there? I need you to understand that is a privilege not all of us have.

    By voting? People voted to spend government money to even harms done in the past. That's not privilege; that's a choice made when voting. Not sure what you mean by neighbors having a different reality, my neighbors are getting bettered by good governance because we voted for good politicians

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Technically correct in that it's a Republic

    https://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/princeton-experts-say-us-no-longer-democracy

    Nah. Actually, it does not represent you, what you care about, or anything about you. Quit simping for your own destruction.

    By voting?

    Oh. You're not serious. Thanks for the notice to block you.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Life in Europe is much better than in the US for any ethnicity.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    No kidding. Still funny when they pretend they're not racist over there especially when Germany has an active nazi party just like the states does lol

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    As if the us doesn't have neonazis. We don't pretend anything, dear maga idiot. What you are spewing is what your propaganda taught you to think.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    Huh? Did you miss the

    just like the states

    I put in there? Like no shit we have a nazi party. It's the Republicans. Germany as well has one, the AFD, and it's quite large too.

    Eu absolutely love to get on a high horse pretending they're not racist

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