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The Day 37 British Columbia MLAs Tried to Advance a Bill to Eliminate Your Basic Human Rights (donshafer1.substack.com)
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(That day was February 26, 2026)

The vote was 50 against. 37 in favour.

Names, districts, and email addresses of all MLAs voting 'yea' included

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[–] -3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (4 children)

Anything but two you say. Great, let's make more ambiguous rules based on "your truth".

I'm fine if someone wants to call themselves a Ze or Zeh, but the ambiguity is silly and should never be codified into law. Let's not make a mockery of laws people need to follow based on peoples feelings.

What if two people disagreed about what genders exist, one person says 3 and one says 8, is that automatic hate speech for the lesser?

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    You either didn't read my comment or you deliberately missed the point.

    I didn't say "anything but two," I simply said something that wasn't "exactly two," and you apparently can't handle that because you seem to think your opinion is the only valid one (since you impose an arbitrary restriction such as "anything other than two is ambiguous").

    It's not about how many genders there are. It's about not imposing arbitrary restrictions on how other people live their lives. No one in their right mind is trying to say "there are exactly [3, 8, 144, or however many] genders." You're the only one trying to say "there are exactly two."

    You're acting like other people are trying to make laws to dictate how you live your life based on how they feel, but the truth is you are the one who wants laws dictating how other people live their lives based on how you feel.

    No one is writing laws saying "you must recognize exactly eight genders." The only people trying to write laws like that are the ones who believe everyone must conform to one of exactly two genders, and that it must correspond to the sex they were assigned at birth.

    Trans rights isn't about forcing you to recognize some arbitrary number. It's about being inclusive of people's identities instead of writing arbitrary rules about what they can and cannot be.

    TL;DR, you're the only one trying to force your feelings about an arbitrary number of genders (in your case, two) on everyone else.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    He's sealioning you, not arguing in good faith.

    It's more effective to call out the behaviour than to continue to engage, since continued engagement makes it seem like there's a "debate" or "two sides" and that his side is the rational one that's "just asking questions".

    That's bullshit. He knows exactly what he's doing. Trolling and trying to shift the Overton window. It's bad faith manipulation, not a conversation. Treat it as such.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    You're right, I have a bad habit of arguing in circles when people do this. As if pointing out their inconsistencies/irrationalities and explaining the reality just one more time will get them to see the light. I need to stop doing that...

    Reading other comments in the chain, he was doing it to other people too. Just deliberately missing the point on repeat.

    I need to stop engaging with trolls...

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  • [–] -1 points 8 months ago*

    You’re acting like other people are trying to make laws to dictate how you live your life based on how they feel, but the truth is you are the one who wants laws dictating how other people live their lives based on how you feel.

    Well sorry, its a lot to respond to, I was referencing the punishment of a 750k fine for wrongspeech. I'm not saying we should fine trans people or force them to put male/female on their birth certificate, I've got no qualms about how people view or define themselves, I'm of the belief people should even be able to go as far as to say they are any race they want. Though I also believe the government should be race/gender neutral as well, so identity would no role in our dealings with the government and be totally apolitical.

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