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[–] daannii@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (6 children) Because it's a biological issue with circadian rhythms. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago (3 children) The why isn’t waking up early treated the same? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] daannii@lemmy.world 1 point 8 months ago (2 children) Because sunlight causes specific changes in the body to wake you up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago (1 child) Then why isn’t waking up before sunrise in the DSM like waking up well after? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] daannii@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) Most sleep disorders are in the regular medical diagnostic list. Honestly not sure which sleep disorder is listed in the dsm . The dsm is specific to mental health. Do you know the specific term,? It might be a symptom. But I've not heard of it being a disorder in the dsm. The delayed sleep phase syndrome is a medical diagnosis. Not in the dsm. If you only sleep a small number of hours and wake up super early , that's a sleep disorder symptom. Typically it's a symptom of some other problem. It's common in dementia. It's also normal to sleep less hours as you get older. So old people are notorious for waking up early. It's natural to get tired when the sun goes down. And if you only need 6 hours of sleep but go to bed at 10 pm. You will wake up at 4 am. So some other sleep related diagnosis: There is also sleep apnea. There is a long list of Sleep parasomnia disorders Narcolepsy (2 types) There are sleep problems related to all sorts of conditions like schizophrenia and bipolar. ADHD. Sleep problems can be caused by drug and alcohol use. As far as I know. Sleep problems are only symptoms in the dsm . No sleep disorder is listed in the dsm. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ICastFist@programming.dev 1 point 8 months ago (1 child) Considering that, in nomadic life, night has a number of dangers, that is a considerable advantage permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] daannii@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago Honestly, diversity is what makes humans strong. It would make sense if a few people in a tribe were night owls. I think it makes sense that it would be better for a group of humans to have at least one that likes to stay up late and sleep in. There are a lot of human problems that are created by our culture and society. And even technology. For instance. Dyslexia doesn't exist except in written language that requires precision horizontal tracking. It's much less of a problem for Chinese people. Their written language is vertical and reads right to left. ADHD. Do we think this was a problem in nomadic tribes? Probably not. It certainly makes it hard for people to do repetitive tasks for 8 hours. But the human brain was never designed for that in the first place. I took a course, many years ago on the ethical and cultural issues of the dsm. My understanding was that most dsm disorders are heavily culturally created in one way or another. How we define a problem. What criteria is considered valid or not. Some diagnoses are more universal than others. The symptoms can vary based on culture and generation. Some problems are a product of our society restricting people to a narrow set of acceptable behaviors. Often for capitalistic reasons. That are not healthy for us, mentally nor physically. (Working in a factory , sitting at a computer all day). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago (3 children) The why isn’t waking up early treated the same? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] daannii@lemmy.world 1 point 8 months ago (2 children) Because sunlight causes specific changes in the body to wake you up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago (1 child) Then why isn’t waking up before sunrise in the DSM like waking up well after? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] daannii@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) Most sleep disorders are in the regular medical diagnostic list. Honestly not sure which sleep disorder is listed in the dsm . The dsm is specific to mental health. Do you know the specific term,? It might be a symptom. But I've not heard of it being a disorder in the dsm. The delayed sleep phase syndrome is a medical diagnosis. Not in the dsm. If you only sleep a small number of hours and wake up super early , that's a sleep disorder symptom. Typically it's a symptom of some other problem. It's common in dementia. It's also normal to sleep less hours as you get older. So old people are notorious for waking up early. It's natural to get tired when the sun goes down. And if you only need 6 hours of sleep but go to bed at 10 pm. You will wake up at 4 am. So some other sleep related diagnosis: There is also sleep apnea. There is a long list of Sleep parasomnia disorders Narcolepsy (2 types) There are sleep problems related to all sorts of conditions like schizophrenia and bipolar. ADHD. Sleep problems can be caused by drug and alcohol use. As far as I know. Sleep problems are only symptoms in the dsm . No sleep disorder is listed in the dsm. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] daannii@lemmy.world 1 point 8 months ago (2 children) Because sunlight causes specific changes in the body to wake you up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago (1 child) Then why isn’t waking up before sunrise in the DSM like waking up well after? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] daannii@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) Most sleep disorders are in the regular medical diagnostic list. Honestly not sure which sleep disorder is listed in the dsm . The dsm is specific to mental health. Do you know the specific term,? It might be a symptom. But I've not heard of it being a disorder in the dsm. The delayed sleep phase syndrome is a medical diagnosis. Not in the dsm. If you only sleep a small number of hours and wake up super early , that's a sleep disorder symptom. Typically it's a symptom of some other problem. It's common in dementia. It's also normal to sleep less hours as you get older. So old people are notorious for waking up early. It's natural to get tired when the sun goes down. And if you only need 6 hours of sleep but go to bed at 10 pm. You will wake up at 4 am. So some other sleep related diagnosis: There is also sleep apnea. There is a long list of Sleep parasomnia disorders Narcolepsy (2 types) There are sleep problems related to all sorts of conditions like schizophrenia and bipolar. ADHD. Sleep problems can be caused by drug and alcohol use. As far as I know. Sleep problems are only symptoms in the dsm . No sleep disorder is listed in the dsm. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago (1 child) Then why isn’t waking up before sunrise in the DSM like waking up well after? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] daannii@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) Most sleep disorders are in the regular medical diagnostic list. Honestly not sure which sleep disorder is listed in the dsm . The dsm is specific to mental health. Do you know the specific term,? It might be a symptom. But I've not heard of it being a disorder in the dsm. The delayed sleep phase syndrome is a medical diagnosis. Not in the dsm. If you only sleep a small number of hours and wake up super early , that's a sleep disorder symptom. Typically it's a symptom of some other problem. It's common in dementia. It's also normal to sleep less hours as you get older. So old people are notorious for waking up early. It's natural to get tired when the sun goes down. And if you only need 6 hours of sleep but go to bed at 10 pm. You will wake up at 4 am. So some other sleep related diagnosis: There is also sleep apnea. There is a long list of Sleep parasomnia disorders Narcolepsy (2 types) There are sleep problems related to all sorts of conditions like schizophrenia and bipolar. ADHD. Sleep problems can be caused by drug and alcohol use. As far as I know. Sleep problems are only symptoms in the dsm . No sleep disorder is listed in the dsm. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] daannii@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) Most sleep disorders are in the regular medical diagnostic list. Honestly not sure which sleep disorder is listed in the dsm . The dsm is specific to mental health. Do you know the specific term,? It might be a symptom. But I've not heard of it being a disorder in the dsm. The delayed sleep phase syndrome is a medical diagnosis. Not in the dsm. If you only sleep a small number of hours and wake up super early , that's a sleep disorder symptom. Typically it's a symptom of some other problem. It's common in dementia. It's also normal to sleep less hours as you get older. So old people are notorious for waking up early. It's natural to get tired when the sun goes down. And if you only need 6 hours of sleep but go to bed at 10 pm. You will wake up at 4 am. So some other sleep related diagnosis: There is also sleep apnea. There is a long list of Sleep parasomnia disorders Narcolepsy (2 types) There are sleep problems related to all sorts of conditions like schizophrenia and bipolar. ADHD. Sleep problems can be caused by drug and alcohol use. As far as I know. Sleep problems are only symptoms in the dsm . No sleep disorder is listed in the dsm. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 1 point 8 months ago (1 child) Considering that, in nomadic life, night has a number of dangers, that is a considerable advantage permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] daannii@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago Honestly, diversity is what makes humans strong. It would make sense if a few people in a tribe were night owls. I think it makes sense that it would be better for a group of humans to have at least one that likes to stay up late and sleep in. There are a lot of human problems that are created by our culture and society. And even technology. For instance. Dyslexia doesn't exist except in written language that requires precision horizontal tracking. It's much less of a problem for Chinese people. Their written language is vertical and reads right to left. ADHD. Do we think this was a problem in nomadic tribes? Probably not. It certainly makes it hard for people to do repetitive tasks for 8 hours. But the human brain was never designed for that in the first place. I took a course, many years ago on the ethical and cultural issues of the dsm. My understanding was that most dsm disorders are heavily culturally created in one way or another. How we define a problem. What criteria is considered valid or not. Some diagnoses are more universal than others. The symptoms can vary based on culture and generation. Some problems are a product of our society restricting people to a narrow set of acceptable behaviors. Often for capitalistic reasons. That are not healthy for us, mentally nor physically. (Working in a factory , sitting at a computer all day). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] daannii@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago Honestly, diversity is what makes humans strong. It would make sense if a few people in a tribe were night owls. I think it makes sense that it would be better for a group of humans to have at least one that likes to stay up late and sleep in. There are a lot of human problems that are created by our culture and society. And even technology. For instance. Dyslexia doesn't exist except in written language that requires precision horizontal tracking. It's much less of a problem for Chinese people. Their written language is vertical and reads right to left. ADHD. Do we think this was a problem in nomadic tribes? Probably not. It certainly makes it hard for people to do repetitive tasks for 8 hours. But the human brain was never designed for that in the first place. I took a course, many years ago on the ethical and cultural issues of the dsm. My understanding was that most dsm disorders are heavily culturally created in one way or another. How we define a problem. What criteria is considered valid or not. Some diagnoses are more universal than others. The symptoms can vary based on culture and generation. Some problems are a product of our society restricting people to a narrow set of acceptable behaviors. Often for capitalistic reasons. That are not healthy for us, mentally nor physically. (Working in a factory , sitting at a computer all day). permalink fedilink source parent