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Early Picture of the Florida Concentration Camp (slrpnk.net)
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[–] 26 points 1 year ago (13 children)

Starting to look like those 3rd world countries we've seen pictures of our whole lives.

Welcome to the future conservatives want.

This is why you don't do dipshit things like vote 3rd party or abstain from voting as a form of protest when so much is on the line.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

    People are just dumb, plain and simple. So when the vote forces you to choose between far right politics, and far right politics+racism+shaking up a broken system, I can sympathize with why they voted for a third party, or even why they voted for shake up the system.

    What I don't understand is the smaller group of dipshits, who don't understand even the basics of causality. Who will shout to whoever will listen that Donald Trump is the fault of that small group of third party voters, and not ENTIRELY the responsibility of the Dems being ineffective, woe is me, deep right, billionaire agenda, pretend to care but do nothing, pieces of useless shit that they are, so much so that an orange conman won the election. Stop fucking pretending the that the choice between cutting off your dick, and cutting off your dick and eating it, are valid enough choices that your typical uninformed, heavily propagandized voter, should definitely have obviously chose cutting off their dick but not eating it.

    Lets not even get into the fact that the GOP can only be this extremely far right because the Dems have themselves moved so far right that the rubber band between them doesn't have to stretch barely at all.

    But yeah lets blame the third party voters.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    But yeah lets blame the voters.

    I am. And will continue to do so.

    Our government is a reflection of our electorate. If some dumb assholes who have never bothered looking up the voting history of both parties and the economic trends related to both parties and the criminal conviction history of both parties so they can see that one option is way, way, way, way, way, way better than the other, then I'm going to call them dumb assholes, because they are. Especially if those dumb assholes continue being dumb assholes while one party is openly embracing fascism, to the point they even publicize a fucking fascist manifesto leading up to an election.

    Politicians lie. They will continue to lie....forever. It is 100% the responsibility of voters to do their due diligence and do their fucking homework, and vote intelligently. If not, then they will lose their democracy, which appears to be the direction we're heading.

    Anyone who isn't a dumb asshole knew that there was exactly 0% chance a 3rd party could win, so logic states you vote for the option that is best. And again, if you do your homework, one of those options is absolutely better than the other and that has been proven beyond doubt to us every single day since Jan 20.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    So you think the Dems suck because voters are dumb? I think the dems suck because your opinion is so widespread.

    I think Dems suck because they know anyone with more than 2 brain cells to rub together knows they are the better choice, which means they never have to do anything to help us ever, just as long as they dont ruin the country as much as the GOP does. I believe this mindset of "vote blue or die" enables them. In fact if that mindset prevails America is doomed because if we dont force the Dems to completly change, or create enough left leaning anger against them to be replaced by another party, then the GOP will keep ruining the country every chance they get, and the Dems will continue doing nothing to undo it.

    Regardless it doesn't matter, America is already so horrifically fucked. The GOP are about to sell what little chance we had at a decent future away and then fuck off to other countries on golden parachutes. Nothing short of massive political uprising from the left has any chance of righting the ship before the entry country buckles under the weight of 50 years of crony capitalism.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    not gonna lie, this really make the US look like its now an authoritarian regime, especially from the outside. Not sure what would be the benefit for the US on that

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago*

    We've definitely grown a lot more authoritarian recently, but are still mostly crony capitalism. Worse case scenario for our government i think will be Authoritarian Oligarchy, that's what the GOP wants anyways.

    To answer your question about what benefit for the US it would be, it wouldn't be one, it would just be the fulfillment of the current iteration of the American dream "Fuck all of you as long as I get mine". Sadly we cant vote our way out of it because every ballot is a vote for either "Slow death of America" or "Quick death of America"

    I find it ironic that i don't hear "taxation without representation" being mentioned more, its a defining phrase of our country's history, and I haven't been represented by the government since i was old enough to begin thinking about politics.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    The bigger issue is that somewhere near half the US is OK with this. Sure, maybe some people could have done more to prevent it. But, there were also untapped voters on the other side who fully supported this kind of thing, but were too lazy to vote.

    The US is in a crisis not because of who is in charge, but because roughly half the population supports this kind of thing. It could be that some of them are actually not horrible people, it's just that they've been misled by Fox News, right-wing echo chambers, and other sources of information that have blinded them to the truth. But, a lot of them are gleeful participants in this new world, and will fully support it until they're the ones being sent to the camps.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    It's hard to believe that any level of watching fox news would make a healthy decent person okay with literal concentration camps

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Because that's not what they're being told. I haven't watched, but I assume it's more like "These rapists, murderers and drug dealing gang members are going to be put in a comfortable detention camp that's escape-proof because of the alligators."

    I assume they think that it's only the worst of the worst that are being sent to these camps. They believe Trump's narrative that Kilmar Abrego Garcia was a member of MS13 who had MS13 tattooed on his knuckles. They believe that the people being rounded up are gangsters and terrorists, and if there's occasionally a story of someone who wasn't a gangster being deported, they think that's an exception. So, while the detention might be difficult, they think it's literally protecting innocent American lives.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    Somewhere between 30-40 percent of the population doesn't vote, so if it's any consolation it's only about 30 percent who are for this. Not even factoring those who are so propagandized that they basically exist in a different reality and have no clue what the fuck is going on.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    Somewhere between 30-40 percent of the population doesn't vote, so if it's any consolation it's only about 30 percent who are for this

    How do you figure? You think the 30-40 percent who didn't vote are against it? What evidence do you have for that?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    In such a situation where information is limited the best course to take is that no opinion exists at all. Remember there is a greatly propagandandized fiction that politics don't matter, that's not even factoring in folks who for example are too overworked to care and other such similar factors. That's not even getting into various forms of voter suppression.

    I'd say that at worst it's what may be considered civil negligence, but being pro something assumes intent or active participation. If I don't stop someone from doing a mass shooting simply because I didn't notice them because I'm tired or focused on other things does that make me assistant to the shooting?

    Remember knowledge is power both in its acquisition and it's suppression, there's a lot of folks with lots of money enabling the suppression of knowledge. Not in a UFO conspiracy theory way but in a knowing you are being fucked over by politicians and not circumstances sort of way.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    Not voting is extremely dipshit. That contributes to outcomes by over an order of magnitude more than third party voters do. We get into theses shitty situations by always compromising. First and foremost everyone should be in favor and push for ranked choice voting. That empowers voters and cuts down the power of party machines. I'm convinced it's one of the most powerful forces for restoring something that resembles democracy. I'll always stand behind people supporting candidates that support their interests the most as long as they have made the effort to make sure their candidate has their best interests in mind.

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