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Real Nazis (lemmy.sdf.org)
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[–] 11 points 9 months ago (19 children)

Not trying to reopen a can of worms but care to fill me in on what happened?

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  • [–] 16 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    PizzaCake, the artist behind this comic, made another comic a few years back, satirising a bunch of things men say to women to handwave away bad behaviour (think "not all men" kind of stuff). What she didn't notice was that with her satirisation, she also dismissed genuine issues that society also tends to dismiss relating to mens mental health.

    The mods of r/comics went a bit overboard with the moderation (to be fair, an overwhelming amount of moderated comments have been just pure toxic masculinity, but a bunch of people who said that both toxic masculinity AND the intentional downplay of men's issues are a problem, got caught in the crossfire).

    PizzaCake herself had some... less than savoury reactions, all in all it turned into a shitshow that the chuds blew out of proportion, the mods who stepped in were overbearing and obviously prejudiced, and the overall reactions just... weren't nice. this should've been something that triggers respectful discussion, and both sides were unable to do exactly that.

    Later on, the manosphere launched what was essentially a mini gamergate against PizzaCake and bam, now we have a bunch of videos and Reddit posts calling her "pathetic" and other select names, while the people posting said content aren't better by any measure...

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Thank you for actually giving me an explanation instead of just calling her comics unfunny lol

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Yeah anyone saying her comics are unfunny is lying to themself or others.

    They're not gut-busting, side-splitting, laugh out loud funny, but what comic is?

    They're slightly amusing, and more relevant in this case, often politically topical. The latter gets a lot of people very angry.

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  • [+] 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (13 children)
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  • [–] 9 points 9 months ago* (12 children)

    The arrogance of "I'm being downvoted because people who disagree with me are groyper chuds" is precisely why such sanctimonious virtue-signaling nonsense gets downvoted in the first place.

    I downvote Pizza Cake because it sucks. Sometimes you just have to stop looking for deeper meaning.

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  • [–] 0 points 9 months ago (11 children)

    It doesn't suck.

    It's no better or worse than similar comics, you just hate the creator.

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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago* (2 children)

    It's no better or worse than similar comics

    Yes, that's what I said. It sucks.

    you just hate the creator

    No, I hate the comic. Stop projecting your identity politics horseshit. It's possible to just think something is unfunny cliched garbage.

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  • [–] -2 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Okay so you just have no sense of humor, if you think most popular comics are humorless.

    Given how froth at the mouth angry you seem to be about this, while your stated position is certainly possible for someone to have, it's way more likely you're simply lying.

    Just look at how you've straw manned my position by bringing up identity politics. You're either arguing in bad faith because you're very angry or because you never had a good faith opinion about her comics in the first place.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    I hated this comic well before I knew anything about the creator. Care to explain how I still have a pile of shit after separating the art from the artist?

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    I know it's fun to use hyperbole on the internet when points are at stake, but in no universe is this a "pile of shit."

    It's mediocre at worst, and you should check your feelings at the door.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago

    I understand your need to be the opinion police. You have "reddit" right there in your username so it is pretty obvious.

    I am not obligated to changing my opinion here or leaving it at the door. I am not here to mince words either. It is a bad comic and the rabid fans go to embarrassing lengths to defend it.

    If it was a mediocre comic it would not have been spammed as much as it was over on reddit. I would settle for calling it mediocre if its presence over there was also mediocre. It has grown over there like a cancerous tumor throbbing on the neck of reddit feeding off of the blood supply to the brain.

    The only good thing the comic did was make leaving reddit easier. If only it and the fans of it would have stayed there.

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  • [–] 0 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    Eh, "suck" is very objective.

    I personally find her art to be simplistic, and the messaging is very much "mainstream common sense", with frequent additions of quite opinionated bits.

    Again, I don't mind it, but I can see why for someone who expects at least a level of debate instead of having opinions force fed to them, would find her comics to "suck".

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  • [–] -1 points 9 months ago* (2 children)

    So... every popular comic then?

    Also how are you going into comics expecting a "debate?" It's a one way visual medium. Do you expect to debate a movie when you watch one?

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  • [–] 0 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    There can be debate in a comic. As in, characters bringing up talking points and the winner argument winning based on logic.

    Do you see that in this comic? Or in most of PizzaCake's work?

    Also, "every popular comic"? Fuck no. Most actually get you to think. You can state the obvious AND make it a thought exercise. The latter is completely missing here.

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