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[–] 32 points 9 months ago (24 children)

Fuck it. Chips on the table, china taking over america would be a net positive at this point. I've never bought into the "country bad because ideology different" bullshit we're fed here in the us. As I can see from here, just about any other large nation assuming control would bring me everything I ask my government for as a default.

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  • [+] 23 points 9 months ago (5 children)
  • [–] -1 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    Maybe the Chinese proletariat can launch a concurrent revolution to overthrow Xi.

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  • [+] 10 points 9 months ago (4 children)
  • [–] -3 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    I didn't seriously consider that they would just like I wouldn't seriously consider White Americans in the 1950's launching a revolution. China has high propaganda and they're at the part of both industrialization and capitalism where average people see benefit from both.

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  • [+] 4 points 9 months ago (3 children)
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    China isn’t capitalist

    That's delusional

    the working classes are in charge of the state

    The party is in charge of the state. The working class have vanishingly little power.

    A revolution would be devastating for the Chinese working classes.

    That's what the Ruling Class in every country says. Can't let everyday people get too uppity

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    It's genuinely sad to see people who have been so traumatized by living in an epicenter of capitalist profiteering, gaslighting propaganda, and government violence that they can't imagine a society that doesn't work that way. You think this is a normal way for a government to be, and you think the smart thing to do is assume everyone is like the US.

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  • [–] -2 points 9 months ago

    that they can’t imagine a society that doesn’t work that way

    Well I'm imagining a classless, borderless society where everyone's needs are met and it is fantastic.

    You think this is a normal way for a government to be

    Nothing about the US government is normal unless in the context of an Empire rapidly approaching the point of collapse.

    and you think the smart thing to do is assume everyone is like the US

    I have enough knowledge to know that in both better and worse situations, other countries do things often very different and assume as much but try not to assume details. Luckily I'm well read.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (17 children)

    Trading late stage capitalism for mid stage capitalism and a pre-existing merger of state and corporate power doesn't sound like a permanent fix. Also, deposing a strongman in favor a system that has reestablished it's leadership as a strongman is not an improvement.

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  • [+] 8 points 9 months ago (9 children)
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    They have a Strongman because Xi went to great efforts to sideline people or policies that served as a check to his power. Something that would have been unthinkable in China at any point after Mao and before Xi.

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  • [+] -7 points 9 months ago (7 children)

    Just years of reading. That you bring up the anti-corruption campaign means you're at least familiar with allegations that Xi unevenly applied the campaign against his political opponents. As a side not, I'll say the anti-corruption campaigns in China are definitely popular and also one clear situation where improvements in computer technology made a major advance in society and peoples quality of life. Corruption of low level officials was hard to root out when the people would be making complaints to other corrupt low level officials and risking retaliation in the process. Computer technology helped bypass that.

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  • [+] 7 points 9 months ago (7 children)
  • [–] -4 points 9 months ago (6 children)

    You're whole persona is pushing the party line and pushing back against any dissent. I didn't expect you to see any evidence.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    "Uhh well you're a commie, I don't need to present any evidence because you wouldn't listen anyway!"

    Fantastically lazy copium, do better

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  • [–] -1 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    No, Cowbee in particular. I get along quite nice with communist for the most part.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Just as long as they don't refute the red scare bullshit you're selling

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  • [–] -1 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Just as long as they support the worker class instead of brutalize them. Just as long as political power belongs to the people and not to the party elite.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

    The classic thing where you think you're owning communism by describing capitalismwoth communist terms. Meanwhile, people in communist countries (especially those with the power to resist our imperial fuckery 🇨🇳)are quite content with the governments they run.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    I think you underestimate the term "improvement". Lossing two fingers instead of three is an improvement. 8inches from the ledge is better than 4inches from the ledge even if either measure isn't even one whole step. If in never going to see best then I'll take any better I can get.

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  • [–] -4 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    A permanently better world is possible so why settle for a temporary better situation with little hope for further improvement? Why insist people have to lose fingers when no one losing fingers is achievable and not at all far fetched?

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    That's like insinuating that I refuse to lose weight because I can't lose 60lbs today. I'm literally saying I will take any movement what so ever if it means movement.

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