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things would be different for sure (lemmy.world)
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[–] 12 points 10 months ago (19 children)

assigning blame is one thing and i dont think it matters at this point tbh but anyone who is firmly in the both parties/candidates are the same isnt fully there mentally. They can both be bad mind you but bad and fuck-off-terrible-WWIII-ARMAGEDDON are not the same MO.

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  • [–] 8 points 10 months ago (18 children)

    People who support genocide are there mentally?

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  • [–] -1 points 10 months ago (17 children)

    Definitely not but not condemning hard enough and actively getting a boner while thinking about all the nice real estate that is gonna be freed up after killing and displacing everyone is still different. I would just like to identify the lesser evil, choose the lesser evil, get the lesser evil and then criticize it and fight it until we can get an even lesser evil. Do that a few times and u might eventually arrive at something worth being called good.

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  • [–] 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (16 children)

    If Trump was doing it for real estate, what was Biden doing it for? Money? Blackmail? Just for fun?

    not condemning hard enough

    Fyi, they weren't condemning them at all, not even a little. They actively enabled.

    Is excusing and shrugging off genocide the lesser evil for you right now? How hard is it to say that the dems were in the wrong? They literally need to hear it and loudly.

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  • [–] -1 points 10 months ago (15 children)

    Fyi, they weren't condemning them at all, not even a little. They actively enabled.

    This is a complete lie. If you're not aware of it, you're an idiot. But you're not an idiot, are you. You know very well you're telling a gross lie to advance your narrative.

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  • [–] 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (14 children)

    They funded it and sent weapons while it was happening. They never once condemned it.

    For anyone wondering, Optional already has had many comment removed for genocide denial. He is actively on the side of Israel.

    Edit: They did condemn it, I guess it was hard to hear over all the weapon packages they were sending at the same time, and all the "Israel has a right to defend itself". Good thing optional had a list of links ready.

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  • [–] -5 points 10 months ago (12 children)
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  • [–] 12 points 10 months ago (8 children)

    Seems kind of hollow when one of his last actions as president was to send them 8 billion dollars worth of weapons.

    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/biden-administration-notifies-congress-of-planned-8-billion-weapons-sale-to-israel

    January 4th 2025, that was what he was worried about. What a joke.

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  • [+] -6 points 10 months ago (7 children)

    I accept your apology for lying that “they” never once condemned Israel’s actions and agree that politics should be super duper simple such that any random person trained as a nurse, plumber, sysadmin, or botanist could successfully lead nations with no further education. For some reason “they” won’t tell us about that doesn’t seem to be the case.

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  • [–] 8 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    You don't need to be a plumber to know that helping kill civilians is a bad way to win an election.

    Are you ready to dispute the fact that they sent billions of dollars worth of missiles while the genocide was going on?

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  • [–] -3 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    You don't need to be a plumber to know that helping kill civilians is a bad way to win an election.

    You understand that’s what trump ran on and won with, right? So, wrong again I guess?

    Since you’re so desperate to buy you own fetid bullshit about what some dipshit rando believes; NO i didn’t approve of the sale of offensive weapons to Israel and yes it was dead stupid of Biden to live in the 1980’s and for Harris to not disavow that position loudly.

    Okay? So fuck your genocide support and tell your hero mod to bite my shiny metal ass.

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago* (3 children)

    NO i didn’t approve of the sale of offensive weapons to Israel and yes it was dead stupid of Biden to live in the 1980’s and for Harris to not disavow that position loudly.

    If you know it's their fault, why pivot the blame to others. Why defend them everytime. They won't change if they don't have to, you are enabling them.

    Trump didn't deserve to win and we don't deserve to have him up there, but I'm not going to applaud the idiots who tried their hardest to lose. Being not as bad doesn't cut it anymore, they need to be good enough to win. They need to do better and I plan on holding them to it (at least in spirit) instead of pointing fingers at everyone else.

    I see blaming voters as class warfare tbh. It's like massive companies telling us the foreign workers are to blame instead of the ones making the decisions.

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  • [–] -1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    I just see it differently. I’ll argue the former point after the election, but in the end not doing everything possible to defeat trump is an outrageous dereliction of duty. Your one-issue campaign is not the most important one, polling-wise, though it is the most important one in these kinds of threads.

    So no I don’t blame them for running a flawed campaign - they’re all flawed. I do blame the shithouse rats that crawl out here to pretend only they know how a national campaign and administration (and foreign policy) works. Because that’s not only stupid bullshit, it actively hurts the outcome, and it’s stupid bullshit.

    And we’ll see it again in September. Watch. The so-called-left here will be out with bullshit reasons why we shouldn’t vote for Democrats in the midterms and then immediately pivot to how Democrats never get any legislation passed. It’s fucking idiocy in full force.

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  • [–] -1 points 10 months ago

    No, but seriously though. I too was here to watch it all unfold.

    First it was “Biden too old” and they were right.

    Then it was “Kamala is just the same as Biden!” Completely ignoring the whole website she had up that went over HER platform.

    Just assholes who are helping stir the flames for some weird ass reason.

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    The so-called-left here will be out with bullshit reasons why we shouldn’t vote for Democrats in the midterms and then immediately pivot to how Democrats never get any legislation passed. It’s fucking idiocy in full force.

    So true. I thought they'd give it a rest when Kamala took over the campaign, but then it was all about how Kamala was equal to Biden all along.

    When I saw this obvious and very simply and strongly true meme, I thought "I bet the comments will be full of the most aggregious tankie crap about how the Democrats are 100% the same as the Republicans" and I was not wrong.

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  • [–] 10 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    All of this was empty words, Biden was clearly a firm Zionist and it made him willfully blind to the Palestinian Genocide to the point that he would only scold Netanyahu, not do anything to stop it.

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  • [+] -7 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Okay? So you love trump. Good for you. Now get out there and help DOGE destroy the government you rascally leftist you. Oh, uh, and while you're meeting with your heroes trump and Steven Miller maybe get them to stop selling Israel weapons etc etc since you claim that matters to you so much.

    Unless that’s just a pose and what you really want is to help defeat Democrats for any reason you can think of. I hear they let some guy run who’s like, a Christian, or some shit. Use that one next time.

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