In relation to this, thinking about a new community for Political Activism. Calls to action, that kind of thing.

The rules would be super simple:

  1. Purpose is for protest organizing. [Country, City, State]

  2. Absolutely no calls for violent action.

  3. No links to fundraisers. Too rife for fraud and abuse. Stories about fundraisers would be fine, but no GoFundMes, etc.

Think there's room for PolticalActivism?

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  • [–] 31 points 10 months ago (34 children)

    This looks like an astroturfing account, only ever comments on political stuff parroting the fascist lines.

    Should we be honored to have gotten big enough to spend resources on for astroturfing?

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  • [–] 14 points 10 months ago (21 children)

    I’m pretty sure you’re literally actually JD Vance.

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  • [–] 11 points 10 months ago (19 children)

    I'm not making an argument, I just think you're the actual vice president.

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    Fuck your "debate". It is unquestionable that Renee was murdered. You are a fascist piece of shit.

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    NO. I reject your sanewashing bullshit, because it is both falsehood and in service to evil.

    I watched the videos. From every damn angle before and after Johnathan Ross killed Renee. He knew what he was doing, and had absolutely no remorse for what he did. He killed someone, and fled the scene of the crime.

    You have no integrity, "Liberty Forever". The only liberty you possess is the kind that is completely void of morality, that wants to be free of consequence and justice. No different from Trump, Noem, Kash, and so many other horrible people that are leading my nation into destruction and suffering. You are a monster just like them, the only difference being that you lack their authority to hurt people.

    Your words must be called out for what they are: deceitful and malicious.

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  • [–] 12 points 10 months ago (9 children)

    If you looked at the the different camera angles showing that it was a straight up murder and didn't have a shred of basic humanity then you wouldn't be saying any of the propaganda bullshit that you are.

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  • [–] 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (7 children)

    He broke every department policy in going in front of the vehicle. He raised his firearm before she began to move again. By the time he actually shoots both feet are completely clear of the vehicle, and his entire body is leaning over the front of the hood. By the time he is at his 2nd shot he is to the entire side of the vehicle, shooting into an open windows his third shot goes into the back of her head.

    It's pathetic that someone who has shown they have eyes can see this is any other way then "This ice agent wanted to kill somebody and created a reason to do so". It was premeditated murder.

    Thankfully I'm not a lawyer, and neither are you. However, even MPLS police chief, MN BCA, and Governor seems to disagree with you, so maybe stop happily eating kristi noems shit and have some actual critical thoughts for once.

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  • [–] 22 points 10 months ago (39 children)

    mate you can fuck right off back to facebook with that shit

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  • [–] 14 points 10 months ago (27 children)

    no, it's a response to a comment that doesn't deserve a response

    and your further replies only show that you don't deserve a response

    fuck off and die, asshole

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  • [+] 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (26 children)
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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago* (23 children)

    where is there a death wish?

    also, who said this was a discussion?

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  • [–] 22 points 10 months ago (7 children)

    You’re taking the White House at face value, huh?

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  • [–] 17 points 10 months ago (70 children)

    Shooting the driver of a vehicle does not make it magically come to a stop. If you had time to draw, aim, and shoot a weapon instead of moving yourself out of the way, then you obviously weren't that afraid. Which makes a claim of self-defense null.

    Realistically, I'd probably call this manslaughter rather the murder. But no one here is defending the shooting.

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  • [–] 20 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    "Deadly force shall not be used solely to prevent the escape of a fleeing subject," the memo says. The guidance allows deadly force when: A) The person in the vehicle is "using or imminently threatening deadly force by means other than the vehicle"; or B) The vehicle is being driven in a way that's an immediate threat and no other objectively reasonable defensive option exists, including avoiding the vehicle." "DHS LEOs are prohibited from discharging firearms at the operator of a moving vehicle."

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  • [–] 12 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Well that's pretty fucking clear and nearly impossible to misinterpret. But I'd bet that it will be.

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago

    Of course it will. Or it will be quietly changed and this version will be branded AI, woke lies, or whatever else the administration can think of.

    But the internet never forgets. Their immunity ends when the regime falls.

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  • [–] 16 points 10 months ago (61 children)

    Then he shouldn't have a fucking gun. Give him a taser or a baton. Personally I'd fire any employee that incompetent though.

    Also. The woman kept the accelerator pinned after he murdered her, because she was fucking dead. If he hadn't moved out of the way BEFORE SHOOTING HER, then he would have caused his own injury by shooting someone that had their foot on the accelerator, in the face.

    He made so many moves and decisions in that split second that it almost makes you think he'd played this out in his head beforehand.

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  • [–] 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (59 children)

    His job description does not include playing vigilante and pulling anyone in his way out of cars. He chose to pretend he was invincible and step in front of a car with no bearing on his orders; she had nothing to do with their sweep, he just wanted to intimidate some middle aged soccer mom. Everything after that decision is blood on his hands.

    There's a reason no real LEO would put their hands on a car in gear, let alone voluntarily walk in front of it to prevent it from moving unless it's a serious life-death situation. That shit will get you hurt, intentionally or not. She didn't have a weapon, she wasn't kidnapping anyone. If you think that middle aged woman needs to be caught and questioned you can always get her plate and follow up later.

    Use your goddamn head before escalating a situation and you won't need to worry about self defense.

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  • [–] 14 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    If they are going to blame untrained civilians when their split-second decisions are wrong, I'm not going to give trained personnel benefit of the doubt.

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  • [–] 15 points 10 months ago (6 children)

    Putting yourself in a dangerous position does not give you the right to shoot and kill someone.

    If their training is to stand in front of vehicles, than it's their fault his life was in danger.

    He made the decision to walk in front of a car. He had the choice long before that to remain out of harms way. He does not get to manufacture the excuse to murder someone.

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  • [–] 9 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    He placed himself in a situation that could put his life in danger, and may escalate to lethal force if the person panics, which is likely what happened here.

    It's likely a case of officer-created jeopardy.

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  • [–] 9 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    They escalated the situation, didn't follow the procedures and put everyone, including themselves at risk and someone died. There's at least some criminal negligence.

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago*

    Negligence doesn’t judge hindsight outcomes, it judges whether the officer’s perceptions and decisions were reasonable under the circumstances. Stress explains behavior, it does not excuse it. If an officer's own actions created the danger, misread a non-threat, or violated training, policy, or basic tactical principles, then their perception under stress can itself be negligent.

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  • [–] [S] 14 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

    The ICE agent in question had previously been dragged 50 feet YARDS by a vehicle as well. You'd think he'd have learned not to step in front of cars:

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ice-officer-fatally-shot-minnesota-woman-was-dragged-car-june-immigrat-rcna252992

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  • [–] 12 points 10 months ago (57 children)

    Gestapo trooper on pogrom duty is spooked by horse stampede. Later, places himself in front of another horse and shoots the rider.

    Government and media say "Clearly, she was a Judeo-Bolshevik terrorist."

    Chancellor threatens to invade the Sudetenland.

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  • [–] 10 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    Lick the boot harder. I don't think they can see their faces in them quite yet.

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  • [–] 8 points 10 months ago (24 children)

    "Deadly force shall not be used solely to prevent the escape of a fleeing subject," the memo says. The guidance allows deadly force when: A) The person in the vehicle is "using or imminently threatening deadly force by means other than the vehicle"; or B) The vehicle is being driven in a way that's an immediate threat and no other objectively reasonable defensive option exists, including avoiding the vehicle." "DHS LEOs are prohibited from discharging firearms at the operator of a moving vehicle."

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  • [–] 11 points 10 months ago* (18 children)

    It wasn't.

    The wheel was turned to the right, away from the ICE agent on the left

    He pulled and aimed his gun at her face clearly before the car switched from moving backward to moving forward

    2 of the 3 shots went through the drivers side window. Ask yourself how someone being run over in the front can shoot the driver through the side window

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  • [–] 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (16 children)

    That is not an acceptable point of view for the use of a firearm. Putting yourself in a position to "make an imperfect split second call" that results in killing someone means you failed. You are completely culpable for that when you take up a firearm. These agents are completely untrained. It's irresponsible to have untrained idiots roaming around with guns demanding compliance. This is the fault of ICE.

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  • [–] 10 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Tell me you didn't watch the video without telling me. The front left tire / left bumper have passed him when he fires the first shot.

    Not to mention he has been trained that he is not to shoot at moving vehicles if the driver is not presenting another potential form of deadly force.

    No matter how you spin it, he broke the law.

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  • [–] 10 points 10 months ago (9 children)

    Found another lying boomer shithead.

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  • [–] 11 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    Boo hoo, the fascist wants to be treated with respect instead of as the lying piece of shit that he is. We like doxxing you assholes.

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