I mean on one hand every bit counts, and it's about the movement towards actions, and building upon that, rather than just miraculously expecting sudden and wholesale change of behaviors from the most stubborn species this planet has ever saw.

But yeah, I mean macro scale we still have so much, where plastic straws and plastic bag bans just become comical when you think about the effect, grand scheme.

I dunno, I wasn't against it. Sure as shit hate paper straws though, that much I will admit right out the gates. But there was some progress and product development on that issue too. It's a toughie, I hate going backwards, but we almost have an immediate existence issue on our hands, let alone a future one.