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Is your child far left? (lemmy.world)
submitted 10 months ago by to c/communism@lemmy.ml
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[–] 24 points 10 months ago (19 children)

A counter example is Cuba is now one of the most progressive countries when it comes to LGTBQ+ rights. Good Communists push to support all sexualities and genders but the material conditions of the country can limit and slow that development.

Russia has been capitalist again for 20+ years and yet it isn’t a bastion of freedom for these groups.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    @TrippyFocus Which is, again, extremely recent, and also fraught with contradiction among its voting populace. It has an amazing constitution, but it only barely squeezed through (and is still only that — a constitution).Russia is not at all stable, nor is the rest of the Soviet bloc. It moved straight from the ossified and besieged socialism of the 70s and 80s into fascism, immediately embracing capitalism in crisis, and that's where it's remained.

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  • [–] 13 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    I agree! the key point is stability as when people’s basic needs are increasingly met they aren’t as susceptible to reactionary ideas and propaganda that their issues are due to X group.

    It takes time and education to change opinions on this stuff unfortunately. Even with Castro’s public support it was still a few years before the constitution was changed because as you said the voting populace still has contradictions.

    Capitalism will eventually lead to crisis tho and reactionaries will use those to strip away these rights and target these groups which is why I still think the meme is correct that the only way to get lasting rights for all people is to reject capitalism.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    The USSR reverted the massive amounts of emancipatory legislation they had put forward in their earliest years under Stalin. After the civil war had ended and way before the second world war.

    This is not to argue that communism can't be emancipatory, but that it is not guaranteed to be.

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  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Yes I agree Stalin rolling back the LGTBQ rights was a massive mistake and is a good example of why we need to be diligent in our work even after a revolution as reactionary ideas can try to come back.

    Once Communism is reached it will be fully emancipatory but the path to getting there (socialism) still has many challenges and can have setbacks as contradictions between classes (and groups) still exist.

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  • [+] -7 points 10 months ago (13 children)

    This has nothing whatsoever to do with capitalism or communism but with freedom and democracy.

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  • [–] 11 points 10 months ago (10 children)

    Genuine freedom and democracy can only exist in socialism and communism, and cannot exist within capitalism.

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  • [–] -5 points 10 months ago (9 children)

    And by "genuine freedom and democracy" you mean the society until under Stalin, amirite?

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago (7 children)

    Just busting out every cliche in the book, huh? Lemme guess, Stalin was a dictator?

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  • [–] -1 points 10 months ago (6 children)

    No, no, of course not. He was the greatest benefactor of humanity ever.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago* (5 children)

    Do you think he was a dictator or not?

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (4 children)

    How many fingers, Winston?

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago* (3 children)

    The fact that you refuse to give a straight answer tells me you're rightfully scared of being shown to be wrong. You can come back when you're ready lil buddy

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  • [–] -1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

    Alright. Water is wet. One plus one is two. Stalin was one of the most horrendous mass murderers in human history. Can I point any more blindingly obvious truisms to you?

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child)

    Whoops, here's the CIA telling you you're wrong and don't know your shit

    In 1425 it was a truism that god is always watching and the Crusades were good and righteous. The thing about "truisms" is that more often than not, they're not actually true. Be more mindful about that, ok?

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