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9/10 times, there's your problem right there... (media.piefed.ca)
submitted 10 months ago by to c/memes@lemmy.world
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Remembering to look for and ignore folks with that telltale indicator has made the fediverse so much more enjoyable.

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[–] -2 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Out right lies. The communist parties (the ones that have existed, not the the theoretical ones) derive their power from threat of violence against workers. They're a non-hereditary nobility that oppress workers (except North Korea which is now a hereditary monarchy).

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (4 children)

    Incorrect, on all counts. Communist parties derive their power from popular support from the working classes, as they themselves are working class. State violence is used against fascists, sabateurs, capitalists, and landlords. If they truly were a nobility concerned only with oppressing workers, then you have to prove why there was such dramatic improvements in social welfare, poverty eradication, key life metrics, studied Marxism and taught it in universities, and more. Certainly these would have been of no importance to a new ruling class?

    You're dramatically incorrect here.

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  • [–] -1 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Communist parties derive their power from popular support from the working classes

    Political power flows from the barrel of a gun, not popular support. But of course strict control of News, Education, public discourse, and suppression of criticism really helps with the popular support.

    State violence is used against fascists, sabateurs, capitalists, and landlords

    as well as the workers

    why there was such dramatic improvements

    A phenomena that has occurred in plenty of other countries

    studied Marxism and taught it in universities, and more

    Priests, much like Bolshevik party officials, exist to maintain the system of control over the working class on behalf of their rulers and religion is widely taught in universities just like Marxist-Leninism was.

    Marx has some interesting things to say, he should definitely be required reading, but Marxists treat Das Kapital like Christians treat the Bible.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Political power does flow from the barrel of a gun, but a revolution is doomed to fail without popular support, including a socialist government. The working classes were not oppressed by socialist states but instead uplifted, dramatically more than capitalist peer countries. The only countries that supercede socialist ones are ones that rely on imperialism.

    The implication that Marxism-Leninism is a religion is baseless, the purpose of Marxism-Leninism is to abolish classes, not to maintain a ruling class like liberalism is.

    Why are you going through old comments of mine to reply to?

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (1 child)

    but a revolution is doomed to fail without popular support

    Which is why almost all of them ultimately collapsed. East Germany famously got to a point where they were spending more money on the Secret Police than on the military.

    the purpose of Marxism-Leninism is to abolish classes

    Todays home work assignment is to look up "Defacto and Dejure"

    Why are you going through old comments of mine to reply to?

    Don't flatter yourself. You churn out comments at an incredible rate and you're on half the Posts I look at.

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  • [–] 0 points 9 months ago

    Sure, so in instances where socialism continues we can tell that it enjoys popular support. The soviet union dissolved, but we have billions living in socialism happily. I'm aware that one can say something and not mean it, but the fact that that's possible does not mean that it's always the case. You in particular never make any meaningful points, you cast a silly phrase or two and then act like everyone else is unreasonable.

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