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[+] -16 points 10 months ago (18 children)

The message is good but NATO is not a good thing just because Russia sucks stop lionizing it.

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  • [+] 19 points 10 months ago (6 children)
  • [–] -1 points 10 months ago* (4 children)

    its literally an imperialist alliance. We saw what they did in iraq, libya, yugoslavia etc. killed thousands of innocent people

    fuck it.

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  • [–] -1 points 10 months ago* (2 children)

    Ah yes, post-breakup Yugoslavia and Libya, famously places where everything was great there was no violence until the West showed up.

    Iraq is a more legit example, since that was under false pretences, but like the other user noted most of NATO refused.

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  • [–] 12 points 10 months ago (7 children)

    Why do you think NATO was created? Would the Russians have stopped in Berlin if they were free to advance further? Of course not. Where other nations measure their success in GDP per capita or in providing social services and job security to their citizens, Russia has from its conception measured success in only one way: territorial expansion. The human cost of this expansion on either side is irrelevant. When Moscow was looking to expand their influence in every direction imaginable, the only course of action for Europe and the US was to band together to have a strong enough opposition to keep the Russians at bay. The past decade has shown that NATO is still relevant and needed by all member states.

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  • [–] -4 points 10 months ago (6 children)

    NATO itself is imperialist tho

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (3 children)

    Oh, I'm looking forward to hearing the mental gymnastics behind this one

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