▲ 109 ▼ Japan eyes adding Japanese proficiency to permanent residency requirements (mainichi.jp) submitted 10 months ago by Chill_Dan@lemmy.world to c/world 28 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] starik@lemmy.zip 24 points 10 months ago (12 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] Chill_Dan@lemmy.world [S] 32 points 10 months ago* (2 children) You might need to prove your knowledge of the English language if you’re 18 or over and applying for citizenship or to settle in the UK (known as ‘indefinite leave to remain’). You can prove it by having either: an English qualification at B1, B2, C1 or C2 level a degree taught or researched in English https://www.gov.uk/english-language A. Educational Requirements An officer administers a naturalization test to determine whether an alien meets the English and civics requirements.[1] > The naturalization test consists of two components: English language proficiency, which is determined by the alien’s ability to read, write, speak and understand English; and https://www.uscis.gov/policy-manual/volume-12-part-e-chapter-2 They already do it, there is no double standard here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] starik@lemmy.zip 11 points 10 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 10 months ago The US didn't have an official language for a reason. Which is exactly why Trump said it's English in a 2025 executive order. We are a nation of immigrants, something that Republicans want everyone to forget permalink fedilink source parent [+] bonenode@piefed.social 25 points 10 months ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AEsheron@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago (1 child) While this is generally a pretty reasonable ask in most situations, it seems like now is the worst possible time for them to make immigration more difficult. The coming demographic collapse is not a question of "if," but "how bad," at this point. Even if their birth rate proportionally climbs to the highest in the world magically over night, they are still looking at severe issues, and now many of those new births will still be dependants when it happens. They should really be incentivising immigration as hard as they can to take the edge off of what is coming at this point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] sik0fewl@lemmy.ca 22 points 10 months ago (2 children) Japan's in general is quite xenophobic, and I'm actually surprised it wasn't a requirement already. The US doesn't have an official language, so it would be weird to enforce English (for example). US is also full of immigrant/colonizers, so xenophobia is a bit weird there -- it's pulling up the ladder. I agree the double standard is funny, these were just some related thoughts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 10 months ago The US doesn't have an official language I thought the same, but apparently Trump made it English this year with an executive order. Because of course he fucking did. permalink fedilink source parent [–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago The US doesn't have an official language, it also doesn't have an official national casserole. English proficiency is required by law in a lot of places for various things; you'll find it in just about every subpart of FAR parts 61 and 65, for example. permalink fedilink source parent [–] frongt@lemmy.zip 13 points 10 months ago (1 child) Who is "we"? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip 3 points 10 months ago the US doesn't have an official language, so it'd technically be hard to enforce. It never had one because they knew there was always a chance that the language used could change at a given point. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Chill_Dan@lemmy.world [S] 32 points 10 months ago* (2 children) You might need to prove your knowledge of the English language if you’re 18 or over and applying for citizenship or to settle in the UK (known as ‘indefinite leave to remain’). You can prove it by having either: an English qualification at B1, B2, C1 or C2 level a degree taught or researched in English https://www.gov.uk/english-language A. Educational Requirements An officer administers a naturalization test to determine whether an alien meets the English and civics requirements.[1] > The naturalization test consists of two components: English language proficiency, which is determined by the alien’s ability to read, write, speak and understand English; and https://www.uscis.gov/policy-manual/volume-12-part-e-chapter-2 They already do it, there is no double standard here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] starik@lemmy.zip 11 points 10 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 10 months ago The US didn't have an official language for a reason. Which is exactly why Trump said it's English in a 2025 executive order. We are a nation of immigrants, something that Republicans want everyone to forget permalink fedilink source parent
[+] starik@lemmy.zip 11 points 10 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 10 months ago The US didn't have an official language for a reason. Which is exactly why Trump said it's English in a 2025 executive order. We are a nation of immigrants, something that Republicans want everyone to forget permalink fedilink source parent
[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 10 months ago The US didn't have an official language for a reason. Which is exactly why Trump said it's English in a 2025 executive order. We are a nation of immigrants, something that Republicans want everyone to forget permalink fedilink source parent
[+] bonenode@piefed.social 25 points 10 months ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AEsheron@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago (1 child) While this is generally a pretty reasonable ask in most situations, it seems like now is the worst possible time for them to make immigration more difficult. The coming demographic collapse is not a question of "if," but "how bad," at this point. Even if their birth rate proportionally climbs to the highest in the world magically over night, they are still looking at severe issues, and now many of those new births will still be dependants when it happens. They should really be incentivising immigration as hard as they can to take the edge off of what is coming at this point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] AEsheron@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago (1 child) While this is generally a pretty reasonable ask in most situations, it seems like now is the worst possible time for them to make immigration more difficult. The coming demographic collapse is not a question of "if," but "how bad," at this point. Even if their birth rate proportionally climbs to the highest in the world magically over night, they are still looking at severe issues, and now many of those new births will still be dependants when it happens. They should really be incentivising immigration as hard as they can to take the edge off of what is coming at this point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] sik0fewl@lemmy.ca 22 points 10 months ago (2 children) Japan's in general is quite xenophobic, and I'm actually surprised it wasn't a requirement already. The US doesn't have an official language, so it would be weird to enforce English (for example). US is also full of immigrant/colonizers, so xenophobia is a bit weird there -- it's pulling up the ladder. I agree the double standard is funny, these were just some related thoughts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 10 months ago The US doesn't have an official language I thought the same, but apparently Trump made it English this year with an executive order. Because of course he fucking did. permalink fedilink source parent [–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago The US doesn't have an official language, it also doesn't have an official national casserole. English proficiency is required by law in a lot of places for various things; you'll find it in just about every subpart of FAR parts 61 and 65, for example. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 10 months ago The US doesn't have an official language I thought the same, but apparently Trump made it English this year with an executive order. Because of course he fucking did. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago The US doesn't have an official language, it also doesn't have an official national casserole. English proficiency is required by law in a lot of places for various things; you'll find it in just about every subpart of FAR parts 61 and 65, for example. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 13 points 10 months ago (1 child) Who is "we"? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip 3 points 10 months ago the US doesn't have an official language, so it'd technically be hard to enforce. It never had one because they knew there was always a chance that the language used could change at a given point. permalink fedilink source parent