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[–] 184 points 1 year ago (28 children)

I love how so many people on Reddit are acting like this is a complete shock. That site has been a cesspool of bots and targeted ads for years now, people still believed they were having real conversations with humans? I'd be surprised if legit content was higher than 50%.

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  • [–] 106 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    That’s just the consequence of being popular. Lemmy isn’t impervious or even resistant to this

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  • [–] 32 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    And of insanely easy account creation. You didn't even need an email.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Reddit doesn't require email either.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I was talking about reddit. Lemmy, at least the instances i was on, needs manual approval

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago

    They can literally setup an instance themselves. By the time it is identified as such, the damage is basically done. Just make a new one. Or use one of the many instances not requiring approval. Or fill out the form with ai. They don't actually need an insane number of accounts for their subterfuge. Having just "some" and keeping them tied to conversational themes/topics seems sufficient?

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    I’d argue it is resistant. Lemmy is federated, which means smaller instances, making it easier to detect this kind of activity. Crime in a city vs crime in a town situation

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  • [–] 40 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Nah, it works for now because no one really tries to spam lemmy. If it gets popular enough companies will pay bot farms to post here and admins want be able to keep up with moderation. Bots will simply join the biggest instances. The only solution would be to defederate the main instances and have everyone pretty much host their own server.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    look at Mastodon and it’s practically what’s happening there. bot farms don’t even bother setting up their own servers, they just go to mastodon.social (by far the largest instance) and bot from there. and because .social refuses to have manual approval for each account, and many instances don’t want to defenerate from where almost everyone is, the problem keeps happening…

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    There's a way to look at the top Karma users on Reddit. Most of them are either bots, or corporate account. There's a Marvel one that posts movie stuff, and some Turbo something or other for gaming. They don't comment, they just post what their corporate overlords want you to see, and they probably have bots that push their content to the top. They just aggregate popular sites, though, driving people into the ads.

    When I was on Reddit, going to that leaderboard to block people was my first stop. Though, I do think there are a few that are interesting, even bots — like the haiku one is amusing. It doesn't always get it right, but it's fun to see it try. Then there's a guy — pretty sure it's a person, at least — who turns posts into poems. Not quite the same. Got a weird name. Regular Redditors know who they are. "Something for your something", I think. I don't block the fun ones. Just the corporate trash.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Poem for your sprog. I had no problem with the novelty accounts, and even the bot accounts there were clearly just some dev with a quirky sense of humor. Though those got hate from the anti bot purists, for whatever stupid reason.

    It’s the corporate, vote manipulating, spam, Russian propaganda etc bots that piss me off. And those are much more subtle and harder to detect.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Sprog, that was it. Yeah. What's a sprog, anyway? It's not flagged as misspelled. Yeah, I don't like AIs that steal content, but funny jokes are fine. Novelty accounts are fine. There were a few people who claimed to be famous people. Maybe they were those people. I never cared. They weren't anything special to me. I just treated them like novelty accounts, same as anyone else really.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago

    It's so bad, basically every post there is pushed by bots. The entire purpose of reddit is to shape opinion by forced consensus.

    It's a propaganda machine inside the bloated husk of a forum aggregator.

    Lemmy isn't impervious but it's much better than reddit.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    As someone who never saw Instagram before yesterday, I was a little shocked at just how much crap was AI generated and just useless fake content. I kept hearing how bad AI was, but until I saw just how bad I really had no idea. I imagine reddit is getting closer to this exact model soon enough.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    That really depends on the community. When I was there, I would avoid the larger communities and seek out smaller communities. When I first joined Reddit, it was to avoid the attention-seeking posts by humans, and near the end it was to avoid attention-seeking posts by bots and humans alike. The best content IMO is on subreddits with <100k subs and <5 posts per day.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Yeah, I suspect most of /r/prisonhooch is still legit content, but it is kinda a rejection of commercialism. Not much you could sell them. A fermenting tub? The fuckers will use a water butt instead.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    The big subs were full of bots, but for some it didn't really matter. It a post was a bit but it was still funny on memes or funny then it's fine. I don't care if karma farming bots were the majority of posts so long as it's still good content. The content does seem to be significantly worse now though.

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