▲ 119 ▼ Almost 100,000 young men flee Ukraine in two months (www.telegraph.co.uk) submitted 1 year ago by herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml to c/worldnews@lemmy.ml 229 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml -4 points 1 year ago (20 children) Russia is winning, that much is clear at this point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 20 child comments replies: [–] fox2263@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (19 children) How much ground does Russia have now at day 1000 ish vs day 3 of their invasion of a sovereign nation? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 19 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago (18 children) They currently have all of Donetsk and Luhansk, and are gradually encircling Kiev's forces in the other 2 oblasts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 18 child comments replies: [–] fox2263@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (17 children) Such mad gains for over a million casualties permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 17 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago (16 children) And Ukraine is stalling the inevitable, when all of this could have been avoided had peace talks not been sabotaged months into the war by the US and UK. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 16 child comments replies: [–] fox2263@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (15 children) lol they weren’t sabotaged. Peace talks after being invaded saying give us your land and we will stop hitting you are not peace talks. It would spur them on to do the same to other nations around Ukraine. You really need to learn how to spot propaganda. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 15 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (14 children) They were sabotaged. Ukraine was ready to make concessions, but the UK and US stepped in and said no. These were absolutely peace talks, as they would have ended the conflict. I know full-well how to spot propaganda, anything trying to convince someone of something is propaganda. Reading through bias and analyzing the source facts is necessary. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] fox2263@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (13 children) Ukraine absolutely was not. They were never going to let Russia just invade them and take land. That’s a fallacy. They may have done in 2014 under a pro-Russia government when they weren’t prepared but this time they were. There is zero evidence of the peace talks nor of Us and UK sabotaging them or telling them to not accept. That is disinformation. Russia has not sued for peace. Any time they have approached potential talks especially with the Orangutan, Russia have attacked harder both pre and post “negotiations”. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (12 children) It isn't disinformation, it's proven fact. You can't just say reality doesn't exist and that Russia is going to turn around while they are winning, life is not a marvel movie. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] fox2263@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (11 children) I didn’t say they would. I said they should. What has a marvel movie got to do with anything? Superheroes aren’t real. While we are posting links. Here. https://euvsdisinfo.eu/report/us-and-boris-johnson-forced-ukraine-not-to-sign-the-peace-deal-in-istanbul/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (10 children) Russia isn't going to do whatever you personally want them to, especially when they are on track to get all of their stated goals accomplished. "Should" doesn't mean anything. Further, more sources on the west sabotaging peace talks: https://peoplesdispatch.org/2022/10/25/the-west-must-stop-blocking-negotiations-between-ukraine-and-russia/ https://braveneweurope.com/michael-von-der-schulenburg-hajo-funke-harald-kujat-peace-for-ukraine https://mronline.org/2023/12/07/west-sabotaged-ukraine-peace-deal-with-russia-admit-zelensky-official-and-germanys-ex-leader/ https://www.aaronmate.net/p/ukraines-top-negotiator-confirms https://media.mas.to/media_attachments/files/113/107/658/870/477/437/original/3a02f12a005a503b.mp4 Nuland admitting stopping negotiations https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiS2dg_atfc Linking a right-wing website trying to depict everything as kremlin propaganda doesn't overtake the facts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] fox2263@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (9 children) Wait, my link was right wing? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (8 children) Yes, it's a pro-EU, pro-NATO source. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] fox2263@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (7 children) And that’s right wing to you is it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (6 children) Definitionally, yes. The EU and NATO are right-wing, imperialist coalitions that expropriate vast sums of wealth from the global south. All of them are dictatorships of capital. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] fox2263@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (5 children) Lot of words there. And if I told you Russia was the right wing and the EU was the left, how would that alter your world view? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (4 children) It wouldn't. Russia is right wing, and so is the EU. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] fox2263@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (3 children) Ok yeah I walked in to that one. Everything will be right wing to a full on communist. Curious though, what is China? They’ve got to be centre considering they’re essentially a capitalist-communist hybrid. I was meaning more what we would typically refer to as “right” wing being the parties in charge ie Trump, Putin, Orban etc. The EU for the most part is considered “left”. An economic and political union trying to do good by all its members, free movement, free trade, free market, rules and regulations, legislations and protections for its people and the rule of law etc. it has its faults sure but it is quite social leaning. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] chloroken@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) Learn the basics my man. You seem curious, go read instead of guessing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] fox2263@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago Why don’t you educate me permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) China is socialist, the large firms and key industries are publicly owned, and the working class is in control. It's left wing. They have markets, but that doesn't make them a "hybrid," it just means they are at the developing stage of socialism. The EU is a cabal of imperialist countries. All of the niceties in the EU are founded primarily off the backs of exploiting the global south. Taking a firm stance against imperialism requires that the EU essentially give up its super-profits. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] fox2263@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (19 children) How much ground does Russia have now at day 1000 ish vs day 3 of their invasion of a sovereign nation? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 19 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago (18 children) They currently have all of Donetsk and Luhansk, and are gradually encircling Kiev's forces in the other 2 oblasts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 18 child comments replies: [–] fox2263@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (17 children) Such mad gains for over a million casualties permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 17 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago (16 children) And Ukraine is stalling the inevitable, when all of this could have been avoided had peace talks not been sabotaged months into the war by the US and UK. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 16 child comments replies: [–] fox2263@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (15 children) lol they weren’t sabotaged. Peace talks after being invaded saying give us your land and we will stop hitting you are not peace talks. It would spur them on to do the same to other nations around Ukraine. You really need to learn how to spot propaganda. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 15 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (14 children) They were sabotaged. Ukraine was ready to make concessions, but the UK and US stepped in and said no. These were absolutely peace talks, as they would have ended the conflict. I know full-well how to spot propaganda, anything trying to convince someone of something is propaganda. Reading through bias and analyzing the source facts is necessary. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] fox2263@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (13 children) Ukraine absolutely was not. They were never going to let Russia just invade them and take land. That’s a fallacy. They may have done in 2014 under a pro-Russia government when they weren’t prepared but this time they were. There is zero evidence of the peace talks nor of Us and UK sabotaging them or telling them to not accept. That is disinformation. Russia has not sued for peace. Any time they have approached potential talks especially with the Orangutan, Russia have attacked harder both pre and post “negotiations”. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (12 children) It isn't disinformation, it's proven fact. You can't just say reality doesn't exist and that Russia is going to turn around while they are winning, life is not a marvel movie. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] fox2263@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (11 children) I didn’t say they would. I said they should. What has a marvel movie got to do with anything? Superheroes aren’t real. While we are posting links. Here. https://euvsdisinfo.eu/report/us-and-boris-johnson-forced-ukraine-not-to-sign-the-peace-deal-in-istanbul/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (10 children) Russia isn't going to do whatever you personally want them to, especially when they are on track to get all of their stated goals accomplished. "Should" doesn't mean anything. Further, more sources on the west sabotaging peace talks: https://peoplesdispatch.org/2022/10/25/the-west-must-stop-blocking-negotiations-between-ukraine-and-russia/ https://braveneweurope.com/michael-von-der-schulenburg-hajo-funke-harald-kujat-peace-for-ukraine https://mronline.org/2023/12/07/west-sabotaged-ukraine-peace-deal-with-russia-admit-zelensky-official-and-germanys-ex-leader/ https://www.aaronmate.net/p/ukraines-top-negotiator-confirms https://media.mas.to/media_attachments/files/113/107/658/870/477/437/original/3a02f12a005a503b.mp4 Nuland admitting stopping negotiations https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiS2dg_atfc Linking a right-wing website trying to depict everything as kremlin propaganda doesn't overtake the facts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] fox2263@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (9 children) Wait, my link was right wing? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (8 children) Yes, it's a pro-EU, pro-NATO source. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] fox2263@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (7 children) And that’s right wing to you is it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (6 children) Definitionally, yes. The EU and NATO are right-wing, imperialist coalitions that expropriate vast sums of wealth from the global south. All of them are dictatorships of capital. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] fox2263@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (5 children) Lot of words there. And if I told you Russia was the right wing and the EU was the left, how would that alter your world view? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (4 children) It wouldn't. Russia is right wing, and so is the EU. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] fox2263@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (3 children) Ok yeah I walked in to that one. Everything will be right wing to a full on communist. Curious though, what is China? They’ve got to be centre considering they’re essentially a capitalist-communist hybrid. I was meaning more what we would typically refer to as “right” wing being the parties in charge ie Trump, Putin, Orban etc. The EU for the most part is considered “left”. An economic and political union trying to do good by all its members, free movement, free trade, free market, rules and regulations, legislations and protections for its people and the rule of law etc. it has its faults sure but it is quite social leaning. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] chloroken@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) Learn the basics my man. You seem curious, go read instead of guessing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] fox2263@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago Why don’t you educate me permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) China is socialist, the large firms and key industries are publicly owned, and the working class is in control. It's left wing. They have markets, but that doesn't make them a "hybrid," it just means they are at the developing stage of socialism. The EU is a cabal of imperialist countries. All of the niceties in the EU are founded primarily off the backs of exploiting the global south. Taking a firm stance against imperialism requires that the EU essentially give up its super-profits. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago (18 children) They currently have all of Donetsk and Luhansk, and are gradually encircling Kiev's forces in the other 2 oblasts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 18 child comments replies: [–] fox2263@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (17 children) Such mad gains for over a million casualties permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 17 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago (16 children) And Ukraine is stalling the inevitable, when all of this could have been avoided had peace talks not been sabotaged months into the war by the US and UK. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 16 child comments replies: [–] fox2263@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (15 children) lol they weren’t sabotaged. Peace talks after being invaded saying give us your land and we will stop hitting you are not peace talks. It would spur them on to do the same to other nations around Ukraine. You really need to learn how to spot propaganda. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 15 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (14 children) They were sabotaged. Ukraine was ready to make concessions, but the UK and US stepped in and said no. These were absolutely peace talks, as they would have ended the conflict. I know full-well how to spot propaganda, anything trying to convince someone of something is propaganda. Reading through bias and analyzing the source facts is necessary. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] fox2263@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (13 children) Ukraine absolutely was not. They were never going to let Russia just invade them and take land. That’s a fallacy. They may have done in 2014 under a pro-Russia government when they weren’t prepared but this time they were. There is zero evidence of the peace talks nor of Us and UK sabotaging them or telling them to not accept. That is disinformation. Russia has not sued for peace. Any time they have approached potential talks especially with the Orangutan, Russia have attacked harder both pre and post “negotiations”. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (12 children) It isn't disinformation, it's proven fact. You can't just say reality doesn't exist and that Russia is going to turn around while they are winning, life is not a marvel movie. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] fox2263@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (11 children) I didn’t say they would. I said they should. What has a marvel movie got to do with anything? Superheroes aren’t real. While we are posting links. Here. https://euvsdisinfo.eu/report/us-and-boris-johnson-forced-ukraine-not-to-sign-the-peace-deal-in-istanbul/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (10 children) Russia isn't going to do whatever you personally want them to, especially when they are on track to get all of their stated goals accomplished. "Should" doesn't mean anything. Further, more sources on the west sabotaging peace talks: https://peoplesdispatch.org/2022/10/25/the-west-must-stop-blocking-negotiations-between-ukraine-and-russia/ https://braveneweurope.com/michael-von-der-schulenburg-hajo-funke-harald-kujat-peace-for-ukraine https://mronline.org/2023/12/07/west-sabotaged-ukraine-peace-deal-with-russia-admit-zelensky-official-and-germanys-ex-leader/ https://www.aaronmate.net/p/ukraines-top-negotiator-confirms https://media.mas.to/media_attachments/files/113/107/658/870/477/437/original/3a02f12a005a503b.mp4 Nuland admitting stopping negotiations https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiS2dg_atfc Linking a right-wing website trying to depict everything as kremlin propaganda doesn't overtake the facts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] fox2263@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (9 children) Wait, my link was right wing? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (8 children) Yes, it's a pro-EU, pro-NATO source. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] fox2263@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (7 children) And that’s right wing to you is it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (6 children) Definitionally, yes. The EU and NATO are right-wing, imperialist coalitions that expropriate vast sums of wealth from the global south. All of them are dictatorships of capital. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] fox2263@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (5 children) Lot of words there. And if I told you Russia was the right wing and the EU was the left, how would that alter your world view? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (4 children) It wouldn't. Russia is right wing, and so is the EU. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] fox2263@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (3 children) Ok yeah I walked in to that one. Everything will be right wing to a full on communist. Curious though, what is China? They’ve got to be centre considering they’re essentially a capitalist-communist hybrid. I was meaning more what we would typically refer to as “right” wing being the parties in charge ie Trump, Putin, Orban etc. The EU for the most part is considered “left”. An economic and political union trying to do good by all its members, free movement, free trade, free market, rules and regulations, legislations and protections for its people and the rule of law etc. it has its faults sure but it is quite social leaning. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] chloroken@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) Learn the basics my man. You seem curious, go read instead of guessing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] fox2263@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago Why don’t you educate me permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) China is socialist, the large firms and key industries are publicly owned, and the working class is in control. It's left wing. They have markets, but that doesn't make them a "hybrid," it just means they are at the developing stage of socialism. The EU is a cabal of imperialist countries. All of the niceties in the EU are founded primarily off the backs of exploiting the global south. Taking a firm stance against imperialism requires that the EU essentially give up its super-profits. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] fox2263@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (17 children) Such mad gains for over a million casualties permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 17 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago (16 children) And Ukraine is stalling the inevitable, when all of this could have been avoided had peace talks not been sabotaged months into the war by the US and UK. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 16 child comments replies: [–] fox2263@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (15 children) lol they weren’t sabotaged. Peace talks after being invaded saying give us your land and we will stop hitting you are not peace talks. It would spur them on to do the same to other nations around Ukraine. You really need to learn how to spot propaganda. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 15 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (14 children) They were sabotaged. Ukraine was ready to make concessions, but the UK and US stepped in and said no. These were absolutely peace talks, as they would have ended the conflict. I know full-well how to spot propaganda, anything trying to convince someone of something is propaganda. Reading through bias and analyzing the source facts is necessary. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] fox2263@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (13 children) Ukraine absolutely was not. They were never going to let Russia just invade them and take land. That’s a fallacy. They may have done in 2014 under a pro-Russia government when they weren’t prepared but this time they were. There is zero evidence of the peace talks nor of Us and UK sabotaging them or telling them to not accept. That is disinformation. Russia has not sued for peace. Any time they have approached potential talks especially with the Orangutan, Russia have attacked harder both pre and post “negotiations”. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (12 children) It isn't disinformation, it's proven fact. You can't just say reality doesn't exist and that Russia is going to turn around while they are winning, life is not a marvel movie. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] fox2263@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (11 children) I didn’t say they would. I said they should. What has a marvel movie got to do with anything? Superheroes aren’t real. While we are posting links. Here. https://euvsdisinfo.eu/report/us-and-boris-johnson-forced-ukraine-not-to-sign-the-peace-deal-in-istanbul/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (10 children) Russia isn't going to do whatever you personally want them to, especially when they are on track to get all of their stated goals accomplished. "Should" doesn't mean anything. Further, more sources on the west sabotaging peace talks: https://peoplesdispatch.org/2022/10/25/the-west-must-stop-blocking-negotiations-between-ukraine-and-russia/ https://braveneweurope.com/michael-von-der-schulenburg-hajo-funke-harald-kujat-peace-for-ukraine https://mronline.org/2023/12/07/west-sabotaged-ukraine-peace-deal-with-russia-admit-zelensky-official-and-germanys-ex-leader/ https://www.aaronmate.net/p/ukraines-top-negotiator-confirms https://media.mas.to/media_attachments/files/113/107/658/870/477/437/original/3a02f12a005a503b.mp4 Nuland admitting stopping negotiations https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiS2dg_atfc Linking a right-wing website trying to depict everything as kremlin propaganda doesn't overtake the facts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] fox2263@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (9 children) Wait, my link was right wing? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (8 children) Yes, it's a pro-EU, pro-NATO source. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] fox2263@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (7 children) And that’s right wing to you is it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (6 children) Definitionally, yes. The EU and NATO are right-wing, imperialist coalitions that expropriate vast sums of wealth from the global south. All of them are dictatorships of capital. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] fox2263@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (5 children) Lot of words there. And if I told you Russia was the right wing and the EU was the left, how would that alter your world view? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (4 children) It wouldn't. Russia is right wing, and so is the EU. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] fox2263@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (3 children) Ok yeah I walked in to that one. Everything will be right wing to a full on communist. Curious though, what is China? They’ve got to be centre considering they’re essentially a capitalist-communist hybrid. I was meaning more what we would typically refer to as “right” wing being the parties in charge ie Trump, Putin, Orban etc. The EU for the most part is considered “left”. An economic and political union trying to do good by all its members, free movement, free trade, free market, rules and regulations, legislations and protections for its people and the rule of law etc. it has its faults sure but it is quite social leaning. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] chloroken@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) Learn the basics my man. You seem curious, go read instead of guessing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] fox2263@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago Why don’t you educate me permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) China is socialist, the large firms and key industries are publicly owned, and the working class is in control. It's left wing. They have markets, but that doesn't make them a "hybrid," it just means they are at the developing stage of socialism. The EU is a cabal of imperialist countries. All of the niceties in the EU are founded primarily off the backs of exploiting the global south. Taking a firm stance against imperialism requires that the EU essentially give up its super-profits. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago (16 children) And Ukraine is stalling the inevitable, when all of this could have been avoided had peace talks not been sabotaged months into the war by the US and UK. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 16 child comments replies: [–] fox2263@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (15 children) lol they weren’t sabotaged. Peace talks after being invaded saying give us your land and we will stop hitting you are not peace talks. It would spur them on to do the same to other nations around Ukraine. You really need to learn how to spot propaganda. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 15 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (14 children) They were sabotaged. Ukraine was ready to make concessions, but the UK and US stepped in and said no. These were absolutely peace talks, as they would have ended the conflict. I know full-well how to spot propaganda, anything trying to convince someone of something is propaganda. Reading through bias and analyzing the source facts is necessary. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] fox2263@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (13 children) Ukraine absolutely was not. They were never going to let Russia just invade them and take land. That’s a fallacy. They may have done in 2014 under a pro-Russia government when they weren’t prepared but this time they were. There is zero evidence of the peace talks nor of Us and UK sabotaging them or telling them to not accept. That is disinformation. Russia has not sued for peace. Any time they have approached potential talks especially with the Orangutan, Russia have attacked harder both pre and post “negotiations”. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (12 children) It isn't disinformation, it's proven fact. You can't just say reality doesn't exist and that Russia is going to turn around while they are winning, life is not a marvel movie. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] fox2263@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (11 children) I didn’t say they would. I said they should. What has a marvel movie got to do with anything? Superheroes aren’t real. While we are posting links. Here. https://euvsdisinfo.eu/report/us-and-boris-johnson-forced-ukraine-not-to-sign-the-peace-deal-in-istanbul/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (10 children) Russia isn't going to do whatever you personally want them to, especially when they are on track to get all of their stated goals accomplished. "Should" doesn't mean anything. Further, more sources on the west sabotaging peace talks: https://peoplesdispatch.org/2022/10/25/the-west-must-stop-blocking-negotiations-between-ukraine-and-russia/ https://braveneweurope.com/michael-von-der-schulenburg-hajo-funke-harald-kujat-peace-for-ukraine https://mronline.org/2023/12/07/west-sabotaged-ukraine-peace-deal-with-russia-admit-zelensky-official-and-germanys-ex-leader/ https://www.aaronmate.net/p/ukraines-top-negotiator-confirms https://media.mas.to/media_attachments/files/113/107/658/870/477/437/original/3a02f12a005a503b.mp4 Nuland admitting stopping negotiations https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiS2dg_atfc Linking a right-wing website trying to depict everything as kremlin propaganda doesn't overtake the facts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] fox2263@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (9 children) Wait, my link was right wing? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (8 children) Yes, it's a pro-EU, pro-NATO source. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] fox2263@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (7 children) And that’s right wing to you is it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (6 children) Definitionally, yes. The EU and NATO are right-wing, imperialist coalitions that expropriate vast sums of wealth from the global south. All of them are dictatorships of capital. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] fox2263@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (5 children) Lot of words there. And if I told you Russia was the right wing and the EU was the left, how would that alter your world view? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (4 children) It wouldn't. Russia is right wing, and so is the EU. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] fox2263@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (3 children) Ok yeah I walked in to that one. Everything will be right wing to a full on communist. Curious though, what is China? They’ve got to be centre considering they’re essentially a capitalist-communist hybrid. I was meaning more what we would typically refer to as “right” wing being the parties in charge ie Trump, Putin, Orban etc. The EU for the most part is considered “left”. An economic and political union trying to do good by all its members, free movement, free trade, free market, rules and regulations, legislations and protections for its people and the rule of law etc. it has its faults sure but it is quite social leaning. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] chloroken@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) Learn the basics my man. You seem curious, go read instead of guessing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] fox2263@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago Why don’t you educate me permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) China is socialist, the large firms and key industries are publicly owned, and the working class is in control. It's left wing. They have markets, but that doesn't make them a "hybrid," it just means they are at the developing stage of socialism. The EU is a cabal of imperialist countries. All of the niceties in the EU are founded primarily off the backs of exploiting the global south. Taking a firm stance against imperialism requires that the EU essentially give up its super-profits. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] fox2263@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (15 children) lol they weren’t sabotaged. Peace talks after being invaded saying give us your land and we will stop hitting you are not peace talks. It would spur them on to do the same to other nations around Ukraine. You really need to learn how to spot propaganda. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 15 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (14 children) They were sabotaged. Ukraine was ready to make concessions, but the UK and US stepped in and said no. These were absolutely peace talks, as they would have ended the conflict. I know full-well how to spot propaganda, anything trying to convince someone of something is propaganda. Reading through bias and analyzing the source facts is necessary. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] fox2263@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (13 children) Ukraine absolutely was not. They were never going to let Russia just invade them and take land. That’s a fallacy. They may have done in 2014 under a pro-Russia government when they weren’t prepared but this time they were. There is zero evidence of the peace talks nor of Us and UK sabotaging them or telling them to not accept. That is disinformation. Russia has not sued for peace. Any time they have approached potential talks especially with the Orangutan, Russia have attacked harder both pre and post “negotiations”. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (12 children) It isn't disinformation, it's proven fact. You can't just say reality doesn't exist and that Russia is going to turn around while they are winning, life is not a marvel movie. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] fox2263@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (11 children) I didn’t say they would. I said they should. What has a marvel movie got to do with anything? Superheroes aren’t real. While we are posting links. Here. https://euvsdisinfo.eu/report/us-and-boris-johnson-forced-ukraine-not-to-sign-the-peace-deal-in-istanbul/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (10 children) Russia isn't going to do whatever you personally want them to, especially when they are on track to get all of their stated goals accomplished. "Should" doesn't mean anything. Further, more sources on the west sabotaging peace talks: https://peoplesdispatch.org/2022/10/25/the-west-must-stop-blocking-negotiations-between-ukraine-and-russia/ https://braveneweurope.com/michael-von-der-schulenburg-hajo-funke-harald-kujat-peace-for-ukraine https://mronline.org/2023/12/07/west-sabotaged-ukraine-peace-deal-with-russia-admit-zelensky-official-and-germanys-ex-leader/ https://www.aaronmate.net/p/ukraines-top-negotiator-confirms https://media.mas.to/media_attachments/files/113/107/658/870/477/437/original/3a02f12a005a503b.mp4 Nuland admitting stopping negotiations https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiS2dg_atfc Linking a right-wing website trying to depict everything as kremlin propaganda doesn't overtake the facts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] fox2263@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (9 children) Wait, my link was right wing? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (8 children) Yes, it's a pro-EU, pro-NATO source. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] fox2263@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (7 children) And that’s right wing to you is it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (6 children) Definitionally, yes. The EU and NATO are right-wing, imperialist coalitions that expropriate vast sums of wealth from the global south. All of them are dictatorships of capital. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] fox2263@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (5 children) Lot of words there. And if I told you Russia was the right wing and the EU was the left, how would that alter your world view? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (4 children) It wouldn't. Russia is right wing, and so is the EU. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] fox2263@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (3 children) Ok yeah I walked in to that one. Everything will be right wing to a full on communist. Curious though, what is China? They’ve got to be centre considering they’re essentially a capitalist-communist hybrid. I was meaning more what we would typically refer to as “right” wing being the parties in charge ie Trump, Putin, Orban etc. The EU for the most part is considered “left”. An economic and political union trying to do good by all its members, free movement, free trade, free market, rules and regulations, legislations and protections for its people and the rule of law etc. it has its faults sure but it is quite social leaning. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] chloroken@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) Learn the basics my man. You seem curious, go read instead of guessing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] fox2263@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago Why don’t you educate me permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) China is socialist, the large firms and key industries are publicly owned, and the working class is in control. It's left wing. They have markets, but that doesn't make them a "hybrid," it just means they are at the developing stage of socialism. The EU is a cabal of imperialist countries. All of the niceties in the EU are founded primarily off the backs of exploiting the global south. Taking a firm stance against imperialism requires that the EU essentially give up its super-profits. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (14 children) They were sabotaged. Ukraine was ready to make concessions, but the UK and US stepped in and said no. These were absolutely peace talks, as they would have ended the conflict. I know full-well how to spot propaganda, anything trying to convince someone of something is propaganda. Reading through bias and analyzing the source facts is necessary. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] fox2263@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (13 children) Ukraine absolutely was not. They were never going to let Russia just invade them and take land. That’s a fallacy. They may have done in 2014 under a pro-Russia government when they weren’t prepared but this time they were. There is zero evidence of the peace talks nor of Us and UK sabotaging them or telling them to not accept. That is disinformation. Russia has not sued for peace. Any time they have approached potential talks especially with the Orangutan, Russia have attacked harder both pre and post “negotiations”. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (12 children) It isn't disinformation, it's proven fact. You can't just say reality doesn't exist and that Russia is going to turn around while they are winning, life is not a marvel movie. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] fox2263@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (11 children) I didn’t say they would. I said they should. What has a marvel movie got to do with anything? Superheroes aren’t real. While we are posting links. Here. https://euvsdisinfo.eu/report/us-and-boris-johnson-forced-ukraine-not-to-sign-the-peace-deal-in-istanbul/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (10 children) Russia isn't going to do whatever you personally want them to, especially when they are on track to get all of their stated goals accomplished. "Should" doesn't mean anything. Further, more sources on the west sabotaging peace talks: https://peoplesdispatch.org/2022/10/25/the-west-must-stop-blocking-negotiations-between-ukraine-and-russia/ https://braveneweurope.com/michael-von-der-schulenburg-hajo-funke-harald-kujat-peace-for-ukraine https://mronline.org/2023/12/07/west-sabotaged-ukraine-peace-deal-with-russia-admit-zelensky-official-and-germanys-ex-leader/ https://www.aaronmate.net/p/ukraines-top-negotiator-confirms https://media.mas.to/media_attachments/files/113/107/658/870/477/437/original/3a02f12a005a503b.mp4 Nuland admitting stopping negotiations https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiS2dg_atfc Linking a right-wing website trying to depict everything as kremlin propaganda doesn't overtake the facts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] fox2263@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (9 children) Wait, my link was right wing? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (8 children) Yes, it's a pro-EU, pro-NATO source. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] fox2263@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (7 children) And that’s right wing to you is it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (6 children) Definitionally, yes. The EU and NATO are right-wing, imperialist coalitions that expropriate vast sums of wealth from the global south. All of them are dictatorships of capital. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] fox2263@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (5 children) Lot of words there. And if I told you Russia was the right wing and the EU was the left, how would that alter your world view? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (4 children) It wouldn't. Russia is right wing, and so is the EU. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] fox2263@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (3 children) Ok yeah I walked in to that one. Everything will be right wing to a full on communist. Curious though, what is China? They’ve got to be centre considering they’re essentially a capitalist-communist hybrid. I was meaning more what we would typically refer to as “right” wing being the parties in charge ie Trump, Putin, Orban etc. The EU for the most part is considered “left”. An economic and political union trying to do good by all its members, free movement, free trade, free market, rules and regulations, legislations and protections for its people and the rule of law etc. it has its faults sure but it is quite social leaning. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] chloroken@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) Learn the basics my man. You seem curious, go read instead of guessing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] fox2263@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago Why don’t you educate me permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) China is socialist, the large firms and key industries are publicly owned, and the working class is in control. It's left wing. They have markets, but that doesn't make them a "hybrid," it just means they are at the developing stage of socialism. The EU is a cabal of imperialist countries. All of the niceties in the EU are founded primarily off the backs of exploiting the global south. Taking a firm stance against imperialism requires that the EU essentially give up its super-profits. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] fox2263@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (13 children) Ukraine absolutely was not. They were never going to let Russia just invade them and take land. That’s a fallacy. They may have done in 2014 under a pro-Russia government when they weren’t prepared but this time they were. There is zero evidence of the peace talks nor of Us and UK sabotaging them or telling them to not accept. That is disinformation. Russia has not sued for peace. Any time they have approached potential talks especially with the Orangutan, Russia have attacked harder both pre and post “negotiations”. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (12 children) It isn't disinformation, it's proven fact. You can't just say reality doesn't exist and that Russia is going to turn around while they are winning, life is not a marvel movie. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] fox2263@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (11 children) I didn’t say they would. I said they should. What has a marvel movie got to do with anything? Superheroes aren’t real. While we are posting links. Here. https://euvsdisinfo.eu/report/us-and-boris-johnson-forced-ukraine-not-to-sign-the-peace-deal-in-istanbul/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (10 children) Russia isn't going to do whatever you personally want them to, especially when they are on track to get all of their stated goals accomplished. "Should" doesn't mean anything. Further, more sources on the west sabotaging peace talks: https://peoplesdispatch.org/2022/10/25/the-west-must-stop-blocking-negotiations-between-ukraine-and-russia/ https://braveneweurope.com/michael-von-der-schulenburg-hajo-funke-harald-kujat-peace-for-ukraine https://mronline.org/2023/12/07/west-sabotaged-ukraine-peace-deal-with-russia-admit-zelensky-official-and-germanys-ex-leader/ https://www.aaronmate.net/p/ukraines-top-negotiator-confirms https://media.mas.to/media_attachments/files/113/107/658/870/477/437/original/3a02f12a005a503b.mp4 Nuland admitting stopping negotiations https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiS2dg_atfc Linking a right-wing website trying to depict everything as kremlin propaganda doesn't overtake the facts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] fox2263@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (9 children) Wait, my link was right wing? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (8 children) Yes, it's a pro-EU, pro-NATO source. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] fox2263@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (7 children) And that’s right wing to you is it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (6 children) Definitionally, yes. The EU and NATO are right-wing, imperialist coalitions that expropriate vast sums of wealth from the global south. All of them are dictatorships of capital. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] fox2263@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (5 children) Lot of words there. And if I told you Russia was the right wing and the EU was the left, how would that alter your world view? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (4 children) It wouldn't. Russia is right wing, and so is the EU. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] fox2263@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (3 children) Ok yeah I walked in to that one. Everything will be right wing to a full on communist. Curious though, what is China? They’ve got to be centre considering they’re essentially a capitalist-communist hybrid. I was meaning more what we would typically refer to as “right” wing being the parties in charge ie Trump, Putin, Orban etc. The EU for the most part is considered “left”. An economic and political union trying to do good by all its members, free movement, free trade, free market, rules and regulations, legislations and protections for its people and the rule of law etc. it has its faults sure but it is quite social leaning. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] chloroken@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) Learn the basics my man. You seem curious, go read instead of guessing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] fox2263@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago Why don’t you educate me permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) China is socialist, the large firms and key industries are publicly owned, and the working class is in control. It's left wing. They have markets, but that doesn't make them a "hybrid," it just means they are at the developing stage of socialism. The EU is a cabal of imperialist countries. All of the niceties in the EU are founded primarily off the backs of exploiting the global south. Taking a firm stance against imperialism requires that the EU essentially give up its super-profits. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (12 children) It isn't disinformation, it's proven fact. You can't just say reality doesn't exist and that Russia is going to turn around while they are winning, life is not a marvel movie. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] fox2263@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (11 children) I didn’t say they would. I said they should. What has a marvel movie got to do with anything? Superheroes aren’t real. While we are posting links. Here. https://euvsdisinfo.eu/report/us-and-boris-johnson-forced-ukraine-not-to-sign-the-peace-deal-in-istanbul/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (10 children) Russia isn't going to do whatever you personally want them to, especially when they are on track to get all of their stated goals accomplished. "Should" doesn't mean anything. Further, more sources on the west sabotaging peace talks: https://peoplesdispatch.org/2022/10/25/the-west-must-stop-blocking-negotiations-between-ukraine-and-russia/ https://braveneweurope.com/michael-von-der-schulenburg-hajo-funke-harald-kujat-peace-for-ukraine https://mronline.org/2023/12/07/west-sabotaged-ukraine-peace-deal-with-russia-admit-zelensky-official-and-germanys-ex-leader/ https://www.aaronmate.net/p/ukraines-top-negotiator-confirms https://media.mas.to/media_attachments/files/113/107/658/870/477/437/original/3a02f12a005a503b.mp4 Nuland admitting stopping negotiations https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiS2dg_atfc Linking a right-wing website trying to depict everything as kremlin propaganda doesn't overtake the facts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] fox2263@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (9 children) Wait, my link was right wing? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (8 children) Yes, it's a pro-EU, pro-NATO source. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] fox2263@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (7 children) And that’s right wing to you is it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (6 children) Definitionally, yes. The EU and NATO are right-wing, imperialist coalitions that expropriate vast sums of wealth from the global south. All of them are dictatorships of capital. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] fox2263@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (5 children) Lot of words there. And if I told you Russia was the right wing and the EU was the left, how would that alter your world view? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (4 children) It wouldn't. Russia is right wing, and so is the EU. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] fox2263@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (3 children) Ok yeah I walked in to that one. Everything will be right wing to a full on communist. Curious though, what is China? They’ve got to be centre considering they’re essentially a capitalist-communist hybrid. I was meaning more what we would typically refer to as “right” wing being the parties in charge ie Trump, Putin, Orban etc. The EU for the most part is considered “left”. An economic and political union trying to do good by all its members, free movement, free trade, free market, rules and regulations, legislations and protections for its people and the rule of law etc. it has its faults sure but it is quite social leaning. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] chloroken@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) Learn the basics my man. You seem curious, go read instead of guessing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] fox2263@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago Why don’t you educate me permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) China is socialist, the large firms and key industries are publicly owned, and the working class is in control. It's left wing. They have markets, but that doesn't make them a "hybrid," it just means they are at the developing stage of socialism. The EU is a cabal of imperialist countries. All of the niceties in the EU are founded primarily off the backs of exploiting the global south. Taking a firm stance against imperialism requires that the EU essentially give up its super-profits. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] fox2263@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (11 children) I didn’t say they would. I said they should. What has a marvel movie got to do with anything? Superheroes aren’t real. While we are posting links. Here. https://euvsdisinfo.eu/report/us-and-boris-johnson-forced-ukraine-not-to-sign-the-peace-deal-in-istanbul/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (10 children) Russia isn't going to do whatever you personally want them to, especially when they are on track to get all of their stated goals accomplished. "Should" doesn't mean anything. Further, more sources on the west sabotaging peace talks: https://peoplesdispatch.org/2022/10/25/the-west-must-stop-blocking-negotiations-between-ukraine-and-russia/ https://braveneweurope.com/michael-von-der-schulenburg-hajo-funke-harald-kujat-peace-for-ukraine https://mronline.org/2023/12/07/west-sabotaged-ukraine-peace-deal-with-russia-admit-zelensky-official-and-germanys-ex-leader/ https://www.aaronmate.net/p/ukraines-top-negotiator-confirms https://media.mas.to/media_attachments/files/113/107/658/870/477/437/original/3a02f12a005a503b.mp4 Nuland admitting stopping negotiations https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiS2dg_atfc Linking a right-wing website trying to depict everything as kremlin propaganda doesn't overtake the facts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] fox2263@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (9 children) Wait, my link was right wing? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (8 children) Yes, it's a pro-EU, pro-NATO source. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] fox2263@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (7 children) And that’s right wing to you is it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (6 children) Definitionally, yes. The EU and NATO are right-wing, imperialist coalitions that expropriate vast sums of wealth from the global south. All of them are dictatorships of capital. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] fox2263@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (5 children) Lot of words there. And if I told you Russia was the right wing and the EU was the left, how would that alter your world view? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (4 children) It wouldn't. Russia is right wing, and so is the EU. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] fox2263@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (3 children) Ok yeah I walked in to that one. Everything will be right wing to a full on communist. Curious though, what is China? They’ve got to be centre considering they’re essentially a capitalist-communist hybrid. I was meaning more what we would typically refer to as “right” wing being the parties in charge ie Trump, Putin, Orban etc. The EU for the most part is considered “left”. An economic and political union trying to do good by all its members, free movement, free trade, free market, rules and regulations, legislations and protections for its people and the rule of law etc. it has its faults sure but it is quite social leaning. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] chloroken@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) Learn the basics my man. You seem curious, go read instead of guessing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] fox2263@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago Why don’t you educate me permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) China is socialist, the large firms and key industries are publicly owned, and the working class is in control. It's left wing. They have markets, but that doesn't make them a "hybrid," it just means they are at the developing stage of socialism. The EU is a cabal of imperialist countries. All of the niceties in the EU are founded primarily off the backs of exploiting the global south. Taking a firm stance against imperialism requires that the EU essentially give up its super-profits. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (10 children) Russia isn't going to do whatever you personally want them to, especially when they are on track to get all of their stated goals accomplished. "Should" doesn't mean anything. Further, more sources on the west sabotaging peace talks: https://peoplesdispatch.org/2022/10/25/the-west-must-stop-blocking-negotiations-between-ukraine-and-russia/ https://braveneweurope.com/michael-von-der-schulenburg-hajo-funke-harald-kujat-peace-for-ukraine https://mronline.org/2023/12/07/west-sabotaged-ukraine-peace-deal-with-russia-admit-zelensky-official-and-germanys-ex-leader/ https://www.aaronmate.net/p/ukraines-top-negotiator-confirms https://media.mas.to/media_attachments/files/113/107/658/870/477/437/original/3a02f12a005a503b.mp4 Nuland admitting stopping negotiations https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiS2dg_atfc Linking a right-wing website trying to depict everything as kremlin propaganda doesn't overtake the facts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] fox2263@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (9 children) Wait, my link was right wing? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (8 children) Yes, it's a pro-EU, pro-NATO source. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] fox2263@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (7 children) And that’s right wing to you is it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (6 children) Definitionally, yes. The EU and NATO are right-wing, imperialist coalitions that expropriate vast sums of wealth from the global south. All of them are dictatorships of capital. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] fox2263@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (5 children) Lot of words there. And if I told you Russia was the right wing and the EU was the left, how would that alter your world view? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (4 children) It wouldn't. Russia is right wing, and so is the EU. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] fox2263@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (3 children) Ok yeah I walked in to that one. Everything will be right wing to a full on communist. Curious though, what is China? They’ve got to be centre considering they’re essentially a capitalist-communist hybrid. I was meaning more what we would typically refer to as “right” wing being the parties in charge ie Trump, Putin, Orban etc. The EU for the most part is considered “left”. An economic and political union trying to do good by all its members, free movement, free trade, free market, rules and regulations, legislations and protections for its people and the rule of law etc. it has its faults sure but it is quite social leaning. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] chloroken@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) Learn the basics my man. You seem curious, go read instead of guessing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] fox2263@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago Why don’t you educate me permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) China is socialist, the large firms and key industries are publicly owned, and the working class is in control. It's left wing. They have markets, but that doesn't make them a "hybrid," it just means they are at the developing stage of socialism. The EU is a cabal of imperialist countries. All of the niceties in the EU are founded primarily off the backs of exploiting the global south. Taking a firm stance against imperialism requires that the EU essentially give up its super-profits. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] fox2263@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (9 children) Wait, my link was right wing? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (8 children) Yes, it's a pro-EU, pro-NATO source. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] fox2263@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (7 children) And that’s right wing to you is it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (6 children) Definitionally, yes. The EU and NATO are right-wing, imperialist coalitions that expropriate vast sums of wealth from the global south. All of them are dictatorships of capital. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] fox2263@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (5 children) Lot of words there. And if I told you Russia was the right wing and the EU was the left, how would that alter your world view? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (4 children) It wouldn't. Russia is right wing, and so is the EU. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] fox2263@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (3 children) Ok yeah I walked in to that one. Everything will be right wing to a full on communist. Curious though, what is China? They’ve got to be centre considering they’re essentially a capitalist-communist hybrid. I was meaning more what we would typically refer to as “right” wing being the parties in charge ie Trump, Putin, Orban etc. The EU for the most part is considered “left”. An economic and political union trying to do good by all its members, free movement, free trade, free market, rules and regulations, legislations and protections for its people and the rule of law etc. it has its faults sure but it is quite social leaning. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] chloroken@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) Learn the basics my man. You seem curious, go read instead of guessing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] fox2263@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago Why don’t you educate me permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) China is socialist, the large firms and key industries are publicly owned, and the working class is in control. It's left wing. They have markets, but that doesn't make them a "hybrid," it just means they are at the developing stage of socialism. The EU is a cabal of imperialist countries. All of the niceties in the EU are founded primarily off the backs of exploiting the global south. Taking a firm stance against imperialism requires that the EU essentially give up its super-profits. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (8 children) Yes, it's a pro-EU, pro-NATO source. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] fox2263@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (7 children) And that’s right wing to you is it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (6 children) Definitionally, yes. The EU and NATO are right-wing, imperialist coalitions that expropriate vast sums of wealth from the global south. All of them are dictatorships of capital. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] fox2263@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (5 children) Lot of words there. And if I told you Russia was the right wing and the EU was the left, how would that alter your world view? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (4 children) It wouldn't. Russia is right wing, and so is the EU. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] fox2263@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (3 children) Ok yeah I walked in to that one. Everything will be right wing to a full on communist. Curious though, what is China? They’ve got to be centre considering they’re essentially a capitalist-communist hybrid. I was meaning more what we would typically refer to as “right” wing being the parties in charge ie Trump, Putin, Orban etc. The EU for the most part is considered “left”. An economic and political union trying to do good by all its members, free movement, free trade, free market, rules and regulations, legislations and protections for its people and the rule of law etc. it has its faults sure but it is quite social leaning. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] chloroken@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) Learn the basics my man. You seem curious, go read instead of guessing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] fox2263@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago Why don’t you educate me permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) China is socialist, the large firms and key industries are publicly owned, and the working class is in control. It's left wing. They have markets, but that doesn't make them a "hybrid," it just means they are at the developing stage of socialism. The EU is a cabal of imperialist countries. All of the niceties in the EU are founded primarily off the backs of exploiting the global south. Taking a firm stance against imperialism requires that the EU essentially give up its super-profits. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] fox2263@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (7 children) And that’s right wing to you is it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (6 children) Definitionally, yes. The EU and NATO are right-wing, imperialist coalitions that expropriate vast sums of wealth from the global south. All of them are dictatorships of capital. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] fox2263@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (5 children) Lot of words there. And if I told you Russia was the right wing and the EU was the left, how would that alter your world view? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (4 children) It wouldn't. Russia is right wing, and so is the EU. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] fox2263@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (3 children) Ok yeah I walked in to that one. Everything will be right wing to a full on communist. Curious though, what is China? They’ve got to be centre considering they’re essentially a capitalist-communist hybrid. I was meaning more what we would typically refer to as “right” wing being the parties in charge ie Trump, Putin, Orban etc. The EU for the most part is considered “left”. An economic and political union trying to do good by all its members, free movement, free trade, free market, rules and regulations, legislations and protections for its people and the rule of law etc. it has its faults sure but it is quite social leaning. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] chloroken@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) Learn the basics my man. You seem curious, go read instead of guessing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] fox2263@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago Why don’t you educate me permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) China is socialist, the large firms and key industries are publicly owned, and the working class is in control. It's left wing. They have markets, but that doesn't make them a "hybrid," it just means they are at the developing stage of socialism. The EU is a cabal of imperialist countries. All of the niceties in the EU are founded primarily off the backs of exploiting the global south. Taking a firm stance against imperialism requires that the EU essentially give up its super-profits. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (6 children) Definitionally, yes. The EU and NATO are right-wing, imperialist coalitions that expropriate vast sums of wealth from the global south. All of them are dictatorships of capital. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] fox2263@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (5 children) Lot of words there. And if I told you Russia was the right wing and the EU was the left, how would that alter your world view? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (4 children) It wouldn't. Russia is right wing, and so is the EU. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] fox2263@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (3 children) Ok yeah I walked in to that one. Everything will be right wing to a full on communist. Curious though, what is China? They’ve got to be centre considering they’re essentially a capitalist-communist hybrid. I was meaning more what we would typically refer to as “right” wing being the parties in charge ie Trump, Putin, Orban etc. The EU for the most part is considered “left”. An economic and political union trying to do good by all its members, free movement, free trade, free market, rules and regulations, legislations and protections for its people and the rule of law etc. it has its faults sure but it is quite social leaning. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] chloroken@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) Learn the basics my man. You seem curious, go read instead of guessing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] fox2263@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago Why don’t you educate me permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) China is socialist, the large firms and key industries are publicly owned, and the working class is in control. It's left wing. They have markets, but that doesn't make them a "hybrid," it just means they are at the developing stage of socialism. The EU is a cabal of imperialist countries. All of the niceties in the EU are founded primarily off the backs of exploiting the global south. Taking a firm stance against imperialism requires that the EU essentially give up its super-profits. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] fox2263@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (5 children) Lot of words there. And if I told you Russia was the right wing and the EU was the left, how would that alter your world view? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (4 children) It wouldn't. Russia is right wing, and so is the EU. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] fox2263@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (3 children) Ok yeah I walked in to that one. Everything will be right wing to a full on communist. Curious though, what is China? They’ve got to be centre considering they’re essentially a capitalist-communist hybrid. I was meaning more what we would typically refer to as “right” wing being the parties in charge ie Trump, Putin, Orban etc. The EU for the most part is considered “left”. An economic and political union trying to do good by all its members, free movement, free trade, free market, rules and regulations, legislations and protections for its people and the rule of law etc. it has its faults sure but it is quite social leaning. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] chloroken@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) Learn the basics my man. You seem curious, go read instead of guessing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] fox2263@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago Why don’t you educate me permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) China is socialist, the large firms and key industries are publicly owned, and the working class is in control. It's left wing. They have markets, but that doesn't make them a "hybrid," it just means they are at the developing stage of socialism. The EU is a cabal of imperialist countries. All of the niceties in the EU are founded primarily off the backs of exploiting the global south. Taking a firm stance against imperialism requires that the EU essentially give up its super-profits. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (4 children) It wouldn't. Russia is right wing, and so is the EU. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] fox2263@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (3 children) Ok yeah I walked in to that one. Everything will be right wing to a full on communist. Curious though, what is China? They’ve got to be centre considering they’re essentially a capitalist-communist hybrid. I was meaning more what we would typically refer to as “right” wing being the parties in charge ie Trump, Putin, Orban etc. The EU for the most part is considered “left”. An economic and political union trying to do good by all its members, free movement, free trade, free market, rules and regulations, legislations and protections for its people and the rule of law etc. it has its faults sure but it is quite social leaning. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] chloroken@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) Learn the basics my man. You seem curious, go read instead of guessing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] fox2263@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago Why don’t you educate me permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) China is socialist, the large firms and key industries are publicly owned, and the working class is in control. It's left wing. They have markets, but that doesn't make them a "hybrid," it just means they are at the developing stage of socialism. The EU is a cabal of imperialist countries. All of the niceties in the EU are founded primarily off the backs of exploiting the global south. Taking a firm stance against imperialism requires that the EU essentially give up its super-profits. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] fox2263@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (3 children) Ok yeah I walked in to that one. Everything will be right wing to a full on communist. Curious though, what is China? They’ve got to be centre considering they’re essentially a capitalist-communist hybrid. I was meaning more what we would typically refer to as “right” wing being the parties in charge ie Trump, Putin, Orban etc. The EU for the most part is considered “left”. An economic and political union trying to do good by all its members, free movement, free trade, free market, rules and regulations, legislations and protections for its people and the rule of law etc. it has its faults sure but it is quite social leaning. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] chloroken@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) Learn the basics my man. You seem curious, go read instead of guessing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] fox2263@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago Why don’t you educate me permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) China is socialist, the large firms and key industries are publicly owned, and the working class is in control. It's left wing. They have markets, but that doesn't make them a "hybrid," it just means they are at the developing stage of socialism. The EU is a cabal of imperialist countries. All of the niceties in the EU are founded primarily off the backs of exploiting the global south. Taking a firm stance against imperialism requires that the EU essentially give up its super-profits. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] chloroken@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) Learn the basics my man. You seem curious, go read instead of guessing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] fox2263@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago Why don’t you educate me permalink fedilink source parent
[–] fox2263@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago Why don’t you educate me permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) China is socialist, the large firms and key industries are publicly owned, and the working class is in control. It's left wing. They have markets, but that doesn't make them a "hybrid," it just means they are at the developing stage of socialism. The EU is a cabal of imperialist countries. All of the niceties in the EU are founded primarily off the backs of exploiting the global south. Taking a firm stance against imperialism requires that the EU essentially give up its super-profits. permalink fedilink source parent