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[+] -30 points 1 year ago (23 children)

Why are big companies like Google and Microsoft supportive for leftists if leftists in the USA want to destroy capitalism? It's weird.

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  • [–] [S] 25 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Man could you imagine if we had Google/MS bucks behind us? Instead it's like 30 people with $2 between us.

    Google and Microsoft do not support the left at all.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Eh..... The PSL is less of a political party and more of a political "think tank" funded by Neville Singham. The entire party is basically just the host of BreakThrough News.

    Which I don't really mind the left having a think tank funded by a billionaire, I just wish they did more than self promote such a small pool of people and didn't represent themselves as an actual political party.

    Despite claiming that they have representation in over 50 cities, they lack any kind of physical fingerprint outside of NYC. And despite being based out of NYC but have been completely silent on the mayoral race.

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  • [+] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)
  • I'm guessing there's a bit of a difference between chapters? The closest one to me doesn't seem to do much but sporadically organize protests.

    There's also been a lot of accusations of coverups of sexual assault and anti trans biase over the years. I mean at least bad enough to have its own section in the prolewiki.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Why do you believe big companies support leftists?

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  • [+] -17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Because they all support diversity, equity, woke etc, which are leftist movements in the USA. They advertise for positions always stating these movements. Why do you think they support the right wing?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Corporations support whichever way the wind is blowing. They don't care about ethics, they care about money.

    For a long time in the western world, diversity was considered good PR, so that's what they did. It builds up as corporations compete with each other to be the most diverse, the most as you might call it 'woke'.

    Now since the wind in the US is blowing the other way, some western corporations are following suit, some will follow the EU's lead and keep diversity but at a lower level.

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  • [–] 25 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    They support liberalism, not leftism.

    They like making a big deal out of their tokenistic support of LGBT/BIPOC/etc, to distract from them trampling over workers rights.

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  • [–] -5 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    They support liberalism

    No they don't. They only support making money and cornering markets for themselves. They'll take corporate socialism and using the law to crush opinions. The idea that they "support" anything ideological is utterly wrong.

    Anticipating somebody's response:

    Exactly. You just described liberalism.

    No I didn't. Corporations have no ideology. It's pure warfare and there are no rules or values beyond making money for themselves, not on any larger societal scale. They're just algorithms for increasing profit.

    to distract from them trampling over workers rights.

    100% yes

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  • [+] 19 points 1 year ago (6 children)
  • [+] -9 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Corporate socialism is when the government gives them our tax dollars to totalize top-down control. That's not liberalism, that's just power. They'll trample "liberalism" to make a dollar.

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  • [+] -7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    That’s not what socialism is to begin with

    But that's what corporate socialism is

    “Liberalism” has always generally been that which affirms capitalism

    That's one function of it (in context) but that's not the definition. That's not "what it is." Also, these corporations would trample capitalism itself to gain more power.

    socialism is a mode of production where public ownership is the principle aspect of the economy.

    I'm not talking about socialism, I'm talking about corporate socialism, which is not a form of socialism. It's a term which demonstrates how anti-liberal and anti-meritocratic and even anti-capitalist the top-down government-corporate control network is.

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    It isn’t socialist in any way

    Doesn't matter. All my descriptions match reality. And these are the terms we use to refer to these aspects of reality. Corporate socialism is very real, even if it isn't socialism. Get used to it because it's a fixture of our society.

    If corporations trampled on capitalism, they would erase themselves.

    Nobody in any board room will ever care about that large-scale erasure. They will each act in support of their career and their shareholders' profits. Destroying the environment may ultimately erase all corporations. They don't care. They cannot care. They are an algorithm for increasing profits. Larger ideological values are irrelevant. So-called capitalism (to the extent that it even exists) is a product of all this high-concept greedy animal behavior, not the cause.

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    There’s no utility in defining it the way

    I ready described such utility in how it opposes our shallow images of "cApiTaLisM" (and meritocracy etc). Capitalism as instantiated doesn't match our descriptions of it. Human greed is the constant engine. Liberalism emerged from that emergent environment, and in some ways helps maintain aspects of those systems. But corporations will never actually support any ideology, whether that ideology supports or opposes "capitalism." Corporations (or rather the humans whose greed is their engine) will, at best, stab us in the eyes and ears with ANY fractured ideological images that gets them some near-term increase in power or profits.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    They support identity politics to keep people at each others' throats (divide and conquer by identity) while cloaking themselves in empty rhetoric (nominal "support") that makes them look moral but accomplishes nothing beyond identity-division.

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  • [+] -7 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    That makes sense but I have always related them with the USA leftists as they support LGBT, woke, Palestine supporters. Just one time Microsoft supported Israel for a very short period but other than that... But what you say wasn't something I considered. I will keep it in mind

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    They aren't it's just many programmers are nonbinary because that tends to go with intelligence. Not that being intelligent makes you nonbinary just that being intelligent makes it hard to be stupid and pretend like you are something other than yourself. Before the desert monoreligions took over nonbinary and queer identities were very prevalent in society. People were always gay and genderweird, but religion and authoritarianism and slave ethics made people think we are the weird ones when really they are the weird ones living a lie. They accuse us of "gender ideology" even though we barely even believe in gender and they are obsessed with it and gender roles. They accuse us of "gay ideology" even though we mostly keep it to ourselves and they build their entire identity on being "normal", and constantly badmouth us, which ironically they aren't even. They are repressed and confused and virtually lobotomized. They are motivated primarily by fear and acceptance. They are jealous and envious that someone else can be brave and be themselves when they are miserable little assholes who can never even stand up for themselves or even know a single true thing about themselves outside of the dark corner of their mind they reserve for masturbation.

    They can never allow us fairness because if they did we would just completely dominate them and their entire culture. Most of us are not only intelligent but strong and honest. We are survivors. We are brave. We are principled. That's how we ended up becoming human in this ridiculous world of exploitation and gaslighting. We are beautiful because we actually care and take an interest in ourselves. We have good character because anyone will use any excuse, no matter how small to try to exclude us or get rid of us. They can't compete with us so they have to lie and other us as much as possible.

    Yet if there is one thing that's going well in this world, people are at least learning to be and know themselves. People are quickly embracing their queerness and natural genders instead of this stupid nonsense from the past in the religious world. Modern humans are starting to become like the greeks and Romans and Persians and Egyptian again. Finally starting to be happy, and progress as a species, and we are finally starting to get back to that level of civilization after a near 2000 year dark age.

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