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[–] 25 points 1 year ago (9 children)

They support liberalism, not leftism.

They like making a big deal out of their tokenistic support of LGBT/BIPOC/etc, to distract from them trampling over workers rights.

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  • [–] -5 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    They support liberalism

    No they don't. They only support making money and cornering markets for themselves. They'll take corporate socialism and using the law to crush opinions. The idea that they "support" anything ideological is utterly wrong.

    Anticipating somebody's response:

    Exactly. You just described liberalism.

    No I didn't. Corporations have no ideology. It's pure warfare and there are no rules or values beyond making money for themselves, not on any larger societal scale. They're just algorithms for increasing profit.

    to distract from them trampling over workers rights.

    100% yes

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    Corporate socialism is when the government gives them our tax dollars to totalize top-down control. That's not liberalism, that's just power. They'll trample "liberalism" to make a dollar.

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  • [+] -7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    That’s not what socialism is to begin with

    But that's what corporate socialism is

    “Liberalism” has always generally been that which affirms capitalism

    That's one function of it (in context) but that's not the definition. That's not "what it is." Also, these corporations would trample capitalism itself to gain more power.

    socialism is a mode of production where public ownership is the principle aspect of the economy.

    I'm not talking about socialism, I'm talking about corporate socialism, which is not a form of socialism. It's a term which demonstrates how anti-liberal and anti-meritocratic and even anti-capitalist the top-down government-corporate control network is.

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  • [+] 13 points 1 year ago (4 children)
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    It isn’t socialist in any way

    Doesn't matter. All my descriptions match reality. And these are the terms we use to refer to these aspects of reality. Corporate socialism is very real, even if it isn't socialism. Get used to it because it's a fixture of our society.

    If corporations trampled on capitalism, they would erase themselves.

    Nobody in any board room will ever care about that large-scale erasure. They will each act in support of their career and their shareholders' profits. Destroying the environment may ultimately erase all corporations. They don't care. They cannot care. They are an algorithm for increasing profits. Larger ideological values are irrelevant. So-called capitalism (to the extent that it even exists) is a product of all this high-concept greedy animal behavior, not the cause.

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    There’s no utility in defining it the way

    I ready described such utility in how it opposes our shallow images of "cApiTaLisM" (and meritocracy etc). Capitalism as instantiated doesn't match our descriptions of it. Human greed is the constant engine. Liberalism emerged from that emergent environment, and in some ways helps maintain aspects of those systems. But corporations will never actually support any ideology, whether that ideology supports or opposes "capitalism." Corporations (or rather the humans whose greed is their engine) will, at best, stab us in the eyes and ears with ANY fractured ideological images that gets them some near-term increase in power or profits.

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