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Time heals everything (lemmy.ml)
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[–] 25 points 1 year ago (10 children)

My PMs are all about time allocation..... yet they fail to understand what research is.

Pm: How long until you finish designing and implementing this thing?

Me: I cant put a time on it, weve never done this before and have no points of reference. So i could figure it out today or a month from today...i cant give you a time because its bever been implemented.

PM: Sighs in dissapproval... ill just say 5 business days. Hows that.

Me: if we are just making up numbers, sure

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago* (4 children)

    Sounds like you got someone with experience in hardware. They're all about just shitting a date on paper.

    The key to good PMs seems to be that they will make up the fake schedule without even talking to you. The schedule will be made up either way, so if they can not bother me that's a ok.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    My good PMs understood that their role was to attend meetings and create a buffer between myself (who understood what had to be done and was doing most of the work) and the higher-ups. The awful PMs were the ones who thought they were running the show and driving everything.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Our current PM gets involved in projects from day dot. Plans out vague technical ideas, makes up timelines, gets involved in meetings and suggests things to clients, totally rules the roost.

    Shame she's completely fucking clueless about any of the actual work, really.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I usually preferred male PMs, solely because my contempt for their lack of technical knowledge was never mistaken for chauvinism. Women PMs who stayed in their lane -- or even better were actually technically competent -- were A-OK with me.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago*

    Oh yeah, it's difficult to criticise her because it is a bloke criticising a woman and it just comes off poorly, despite my issues with her being absolutely nothing to do with her identity. I think I've had one or two mostly good PMs in maybe eight jobs across my career so far?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    5 days seems pretty reasonable to design and build most stuff. It's function and system/integrated test that takes time not to say there's not random bits of work that take months before anything testable can be produced.

    *My experience is in giant systems processing mainframe class data. The programmers in my team use COBOL

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