The day it happen we'll just have to defederate them, which other social networks can't.

Do you realize Reddit is a monolith platform and not defederated? The things happening to Reddit and other centralized platforms is exactly the reason why Fediverse exist in the first place. Those problems are what Fediverse is designed to solve. It's surprising to see people considering Lemmy as some kind of leftwing alternative to Reddit. It's not.

Leftists deserve our own space on the internet.

That's not what the fediverse is for. The fediverse isn't to be your own personal haven. However, you can use the fediverse to make a leftist instance and defederate/ban right wingers as you please.

I haven't been on Reddit since the API fallout, but I rarely ever saw right wingers, nevermind bots.

Some of these platforms (notably xitter) have algorithms to farm rage

Yeah. I don't usually mind either too much. I think there is a problem when you have the likes of !christianity@lemmy.world being downvote brigaded to the point that it actually is unfairly balancing the posts due to the slim minority of Christians on here. Most lefties I find on here are cool, though. Just a slim minority of them, like the ones who get offended at you saying "bro"

Also, having a Trumpet on lemmy is infinitely better than the loli porn instances

If particular instances like blahaj.zone or beehaw wish to defederate them, that makes sense. But if they aren't botting/spamming or doing things that are illegal, I don't see a point in defederating.

No, the whole point of the fediverse is to evade censorship from fascists.

“Echo chambers” don’t exist except on fascist forums.

All i see here is echo chambers because of lack of diversity. Do you think these crazies will respect freedom when they will get power in real life? These people hate "enemy" so much that they get pleasure from inflicting pain in them & will break law if it mean they are punishing the enemy. I joined here last week, rarely saw civil discussion or diversity in opinions.

It's to combat censorship. How will having ""fascists"" on the fediverse start putting in place censorship?

Inviting them over there is NOT good. It'll show more pro-fascist views and fool gullible people. And the more fascist instances there are, the harder to kick those out.

It sounds like you're the one wanting to enforce censorship?

You're saying you support it turning into a Nazi bar. If you want one, then go there, instead of being on Lemmy.

I'm not talking about nazis or fascists. You were the first to mention them.

Not everyone kneejerks defederation in this case. A lot of places just defed csam

Yeah. The fediverse will end up having stuff we don't like on it. What matters is that people are using it.

Do we know who defederated them?

That's due to algorithms. And again, you could just defed them.