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[–] 172 points 1 year ago (102 children)

Fun fact: It's actually possible for two countries to both be authoritarian!

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Fun statistical fact: outliers are a sign your sampling methodology is flawed, especially when the outliers are a set of samples and not just a singular data point.

    "This jet's speed is an outlier in this set of planes. Outliers mean the methodology must be invalid, so jets can't be faster than planes."

    This is nonsense. China and the euros have fundamentally different political systems, there is no reason to suppose they should have similar outcomes. The whole point of the discussion is that China's system is superior, if you say that any data that supports that is an outlier, and therefore must be invalid you're just presupposing your conclusion.

    On your other point about the usefulness of this data: while it is true that there can be many different explanations for the observed results, that just means that we need more evidence to show which system is more democratic, not that this evidence is useless. Saying that people's opinion of their own system is irrelevant is extremely chauvinistic. In the case of China, we can see the massive increase in quality of life of it's citizens, as well as a systematic overview of it's political structures like here. I've also heard the book Socialism with Chinese Characteristics: A Guide for Foreigners is good, but I haven't read it yet myself.

    Furthermore, your point about manipulation of public opinion goes the other way, too. Where did the idea that China is authoritarian come from? People going to China and studying what life is like there, or media manipulation? Who do you think is more likely to be manipulated like that, the people living there who actually experience the political structures of China, or rando westerners whos only source of information is capitalist media? A simple poll like this is more than enough to debunk the people who think China is authoritarian based on nothing but vibes from capitalist media.

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    i don't trust Harvard as a source

    ok

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    First, ethos is bullshit man, don’t idolize people or institutions to the point you think they’re infallible.

    Funny how stuff like this only applies when it's against the western narrative

    The researchers question the validity of their results because they are abnormally high a

    The western brainpan cannot comprehend a genuinely popular government

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    This stuff applies always. It’s called critical thinking skills and it absolutely applies when someone is speaking “for the western narrative” too

    A Chinese source claiming Chinese are happy with their gvmnt doesn't hold as much materiality as a western source claiming that Chinese are happy with their government. (And vice versa) Do you even know what bias is? So much for cirtical thinking on your part

    Look I know it’s easy to think that there’s a singular big bad out there. That there’s just this one entity called “the west” and you’ll be able to fight and conquer it. It’s easier to believe things are black and white, that certain countries are innately good and others innately bad at all times. But that’s not reality.

    And you talk about strawman GTFO shitlib

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    They refuse to offer criticism to you, they will criticize the CCP constantly amongst themselves. They've sadly learned right or wrong that westerners are always trying to make China look bad. It's largely from western news like BBC. Just look up the phrase China, but at what cost. The most hilarious one I read was China is curing cancer fast, but at what cost.

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    Of course not? If they gave you that impression then you would pry. As I said, it's pretty universal at this point. No mind reading needed. The fact that you were trying to do exactly what they're trying to avoid is hilarious to me.

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    The US killed a million innocent people in Iraq just a few years ago, and is *currently * drone bombing several countries in ME and north africa, and is currently supporting the apartheid state of israel with billions of dollars in military aid.

    The PRC has not been in a war since its skirmish with Vietnam in 1979.

    The US has a network of > 800 military bases across the globe, and has been involved in regime change in nearly every country.

    Which one is authoritarian?

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    You mean temporarily until Trump is gone so they can bomb brown people democratically

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    I don't know you, you could've been a US dem or som EU 'social democrat' or whatever calls themselves lefties.
    I formulated the general sentiment of that group, overly represented on .world and crying about Trump's america.
    I'm not antagonistic to lefties, only the pseudo-lefties.
    If you're not one of then don't feel targeted.
    You would be part of a small minority here tho.

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    I love the liberal fanfic that he's completely subservient to the bad foreigners, but won't do the things that would benefit them the most because... uhh... he's hiding his power level or something? 5D Chess? I dunno

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    Idk what sort of DuPont/Monsanto/Pfizer cocktail y'all got in your drinking water but I stg I listen to any voting gringo talk politics and y'all start frothing at the mouth with the most unhinged theories. Tinfoil sellers gotta be making a killing over there.

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    You have committed the grave error of credibility by getting the most obvious and trivially checked facts of something (a name) wrong.

    I think you'll find the "reeducation camp" is called a "school" in common English. If you want to go for the melodramatic name, however, no skin off my nose.

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