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[–] 23 points 1 year ago* (27 children)

Fingers crossed! JD will not be as batshit. He wants to keep the job and not get bounced from the top spot next election.

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  • [–] 118 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    JD will not be as batshit.

    Considering his connections to Peter Thiel I'm not so sure about that. But what matters is that he won't be able to wield the cult of personality that has formed around Trump the way Trump can.

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  • [–] 61 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Exactly.

    JD is scary due to the thiel connection.

    He's very unlikable though imo. He doesn't have the charisma trump has (not genuine charisma, but like an arrogant bullying charisma that MAGA is attracted to). Hopefully this alone would work against him.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    To be fair, though, Trump is deeply unlikable for many people. I've had almost a physical reaction to hearing him speak or seeing him since his debates against Hillary. He's always seemed gross and slimy to me.

    In other words, just because you and I see JD as unlikable doesn't mean that MAGA will also find him unlikable. In fact, Vance's approval rating among republicans is 89% favorable while among democrats it is 3% favorable as of the beginning of August.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    I see people keep saying this but why does it even matter anymore? They already have the power, they already tested camps, they already have troops deployed, he can do what he wants and still control the narrative like they are now

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    I'm not optimistic about them "going back in the box" as it were but that fracture into competing factions will allow more reasonable leaders to get it. Kinda how Bernie was winning before moderates unified behind Biden but sorta in reverse.

    Trump won the R primary in 2016 and 2024 because the others didn't unify.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    I don't think they'll deconvert. I do hope they will become apathetic without their "charismatic" leader. I don't think Vance will be able to hold people's attention as well or rile them up to the same degree.

    Side note: Calling Trump "charismatic" makes me want to vomit, but apparently he is for some people...

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  • [–] 37 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    JD also doesn't have as much of the crazy vote. Some people find trump charismatic, and find he can do no wrong, while JD chaises that charisma while lounging on the couch like a Lay-z-boy.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    What?

    JD and his wife were groomed to be the Republican version of the Clinton's...

    They were literally set up by the "Tiger Mom" who's an ivy league law professor, then the wife was given SC clerkships.

    They are 1000x more dangerous than trump, in no small part because they won't be as blatant.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    I don’t discount that argument, but my hope/expectation is without the base and therefore without undying tacit support from congress, the threat posed by Vance isn’t as much as a live Trump.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Ahahahahaha! You guys are fukt. JD is a bigger puppet than Strumpf. And a whole lot less likeable if that's at all possible?!

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    He's a puppet, but he can't build the groundswell of support that Trump can.

    There's a very short list of dictators who successfully transition the government to their choosen successor and have them stay in the long run. It's North Korea, and not a lot else.

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