Here's some background on the whole thing.
https://www.pcmag.com/news/security-over-privacy-russia-blocks-protonmail
They have successfully pissed off Russia which is why Russia weaponized a bunch of useful idiots in the west in an attempt to one-up them.
Pathologically online leftists tried to make a difference by spamming the company's support site with a message that demands that they replace their CEO.
If you're a similar kind of leftist, you may want to join the fun. If not, feel free to ignore the whole circus.
Of course they did. What did you think would happen?
As a US citizen I liked Proton in part because it’s not a US company. I do not trust my government in matters of privacy.
eww, I'd really like to stop getting AI summaries of the things I am trying to read.
its like getting spoilers to something about 10 seconds before it happens.
This isn't a comparison between Proton and Google. This is a criticism of how Proton is becoming just like Google. A lot of us moved to Proton specifically to get away from Google, and now here we are, having to move yet again because the CEO turned out to be just like every other big tech CEO. The most damning part is that the Proton Foundation board has said nothing.
I'll happily admit that I was one of those who dismissed earlier slip-ups as "misinterpreted" and even egged on by a smear campaign. Because of Proton's former reputation.
I should have known better. I saw the pattern and chose to look the other way. But then this came out and quickly proved me wrong. Very wrong.
After nearly two weeks of radio silence and a complete lack of action from the Proton Foundation board, I called it quits yesterday. Cancelled my subscription, moved my custom domains to another provider, and sent an email to the Proton Foundation explaining exactly why I decided to leave and why his name is Andy.
I hope something comes of this, but my hopes are not high. I don't trust Proton anymore.
Also something important to note: they can read email subjects. That's something I was not aware of until very recently. Which begs the question, what else can they see that they aren't telling us?
I just downgraded to the free plan and under feedback I left this
I, like many others will not pay for Ai slop. I am happy to pay PEOPLE for (what was) a good service. I will not pay a fucking computer for sloppy code just because "Andy" is a lazy asshole that wants more money without having to pay his people for their hard work and experience. If he decides to fuck off with his AI girlfriend and go live in a data center (preferably one within striking distance of Ukraine), I'll consider returning as a paying customer. This issue was brought up repeatedly in the forums only to be hidden and deleted, which proves to me that your CEO doesn't care about his employees or customers or even having a good product, only about money. Maybe we are losers Andy, but at least we're not you.
mailbox.org was at the top of my list but ended up pulling the trigger on Thundermail. Time will tell if I made the right call lol
Then open source is the only way. There is no sovereignty when you rely on the state, no matter which one.
Yeah but my goal is to avoid foreign companies because digital sovereinty is important, just like buying local food which hasn’t travelled 2000km to arrive in your plate.
I might have to, just to buy myself some time.
I'm testing Tuta, but I'm not loving their app so far. I might just go mailbox.org. Since it uses standard IMAP/POP etc, you can use any client you like instead. Not like I'm really gaining a lot by cyphering my email when they can easily read it from any other unencrypted destination the moment its sent or received.
Big yup.
Proton fan boys are fanaticaly deluded.
Can you switch to monthly so you have a bit more time to move?
I’ve caught so much vitriol on this site for the past year or two for calling out this company as being run by a shitbag.
All I have to say is I fuckin’ told you so.
Nationalism is a disease, do not fall for it.
Okay, wow thanks. I'll have to check on when my subscription renews.
Providing services to a university in Zurich is not the same as actively providing services to the IDF. C'mon
Tuta addresses this directly on their website. They deny these allégations of course.
their CEO is a dumbass that pushes AI usage above everything else, especially security. And is treating the employees like shit
https://www.404media.co/manifestos-fear-and-loser-thinking-inside-protons-ai-reckoning/
Time to make more.
Mine renews December as well. I panicked about the time crunch so I swapped to monthly and planned to go for a few months to transfer everything over. I'm using the credit I have for December and probably gonna roll the dice on any emails associated with Proton that I missed and cancel. Already moved everything out except VPN. Fuck 'em.
Just tried, it's closed. 06:42 central time