Don't know. You'd have to look it up.

Wasn't there something about they suggested for firefighters to donate blood because that way they can reduce their levels of poison?

I thought I heard about it in a youtube documentary about dupont and teflon.

You're right, it's a bit misleading. I'll make it clearer.

For anyone who misread the title as tragically as I did, 3M is the company. The amount is 2bn.

Pretty amazing!

That little lake can serve around 500 households

Literally, in yer dreams!

So, can I put them on the pool I don't have in the house I can't afford?

😆 Yep, it does seem strange but the tyranny of distance makes it difficult because of the expense of infrastructure in many cases.

I'm not saying floating solar panels can't make sense, but it's weird to see them here.

Australia is, after all, famous for its shortage of land and plentiful water.

Yeah 100%

I just don’t think it should be considered radical to want to not subsidise private, for profit companies.

Agreed, but Australia is a conservative capitalist country, in general.

And, our governments are all beholden to big donations from the fossil fuel corps. This is the way the system works and many, including many working class people, are seduced by ON which is even more pro fossil fuel companies. Anyway, even if more people just become more aware about what is happening it's a small positive. The whole situation is beyond the pale.

This is fair. I suppose I am perhaps a little tired of centrist politics, considering [gestures broadly].

I just don't think it should be considered radical to want to not subsidise private, for profit companies.

And if we must, it had better be in the form of an investment the community then profits from directly. Not just free money.

Private companies are not necessary whatsoever in so many facets of our economy, and resource extraction definitely is one of those, so I don't really see what the arguments are for giving tax payer money to mining companies. If they get to profit, they gotta pay their way.

Centrist politics shifts the goalposts in the wrong direction, in my opinion.

It's time for people to actually demand something better, instead of more of the same - just maybe slightly a tiny bit better pretty please.

I've ranted long enough now to convince myself that I find GetUp annoying haha, despite them doing some good work.

It's not sensible to campaign for lowering the subsidy, in my opinion. The compromise from zero could be less than the compromise that they may or may not win from what they're currently asking for.

no

about 1/2 way down

https://dothemath.ucsd.edu/2011/11/the-biofuel-grind/

just vote Green ffs

Water and electricity, together at last!

According to Wiki, "floating arrays can achieve higher efficiencies than PV panels on land because water cools the panels."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floating_solar

There's no way the govt would scrap the diesel subsidy. GetUp knows that and to remain credible and get a broader % of the population engaged, campaigning for capping is more sensible and likely to attract more 'centrist' members of the community.

Ffs GetUp, don't cap the handout, scrap it.

Cooler panels also are more efficient, I believe

No versus at all. Each situation/location has different options and solutions. The important thing is to find different ways of generating clean energy in the most efficient and economical ways.

So what are the benefits of floating vs. grounded panels? Or is it a space thing? I assume it could also help with evaporation.

When I looked into it, VPPs didn't make sense. Yes, you can feed back into the grid, and get a reasonable rate, but if you feed too much, you'll end up importing energy at an even higher rate, completely wiping out any potential profit.

It only makes sense if you can import and export at the exact same rate or better, and when I tried it, there was a 20c price difference.

And the "wholesale" providers are definitely not wholesale. Amber was charging 19c at 1pm today, which is peak solar generation, where the prices should be negative.

Last I checked there was no regulated standard for VPPs, so each VPP has to independently implement each inverter that they want to support.

While we're fixing that can we get P1 ports on our smart meters?

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