The only two upgrades I want from my 7 Pro is the smaller size and support for desktop mode.

Ever seen Beau's list of 12 things he accomplished after his first term (with 2 critiques that everyone on both sides can agree on)?

https://youtu.be/1M6CXhUS-x8

Same!

I don't like smartphones and only have one as I needed to get it for a previous job. That being said I love wireless charging mainly because the easiest thing to break is a plug in charging cord. mag cords bring that to near zero but wireless charging brings it to actually zero.

The Pixel 11 has introduced: nothing useful! In fact, it has actually regressed with the reduced amount of RAM. The only marketed feature is the silly Gemini light on the back of the Pro models, that can only be used for five contacts (and only calls! Not notifications!) or as an indicator when Gemini is thinking. Skip the Pixel 11, plus GrapheneOS is not supported yet. 25W wireless charging isn't supported by most chargers and most people charge wired anyways (faster, more efficient, and not really less convenient)

Personally, I would get the Pixel 9 over both the 10 and 11, the main upside is the magnets (which can bd solved with a case) and a zoom camera (in which case the 9 Pro is pretty good and also the same size). Realistically, I would probably get a 9a over any of them, because you really don't lose anything going with it besides camera quality (plastic will not crack easily like glass and will get covered by a case anyways)

If you already have the 9 or 10, don't upgrade! It's very silly and you get basically nothing extra. The only thing is maybe the zoom camera, if you have a base 9, in which case the 9 Pro (or even 10 Pro) is cheaper + supports GrapheneOS

And of course, you have non-Pixel devices as well. Fairphone has been awesome in European markers, and their recent Fairphone 6+ has also released in the U.S., which is pretty cool! They make very nice devices that are pretty competitive for what you're paying honestly, and they support right to repair and fair working conditions! You don't get GrapheneOS, but LineageOS, e/OS, CalyxOS, iodeOS, and even many flavours of mobile Linux support Fairphones! It's really cool stuff, and Nura (formerly postmarkerOS) is being worked on for the latest Fairphone 6!

You've also got the cheaper Jolla Phone that runs SailfishOS, and that might be fun to play around with

I'm on Pixel 8 Pro and it's not worth it to me. 😄

I'm on a Pixel 8, and the only reason I even got one that new is that it's the oldest still recommended by GrapheneOS.

+1 The only reason I upgraded to my pixel 9 is it was basically free and I only had to pay taxes.

There's such a marginal difference in these upgrades

Yeah that's always how it goes.

Like you, I'll use my 8 pro until it gets too old to do the things I want it to. Screw updating ever year or two, what a waste if money.

As of Oct 5, only 3,615 people have one. Pretty weak launch considering the size of the cult.

But it doesn't have a sim card tray.

I plan to use my current gen until it fails. There's such a marginal difference in these upgrades

The Pixel 10 supports gOS and the 10a, which was released the cycle after, does too.

https://www.androidauthority.com/grapheneos-pixel-11-mte-support-3707488/

I for a 9 Pro XL because it was the last pixel made with a sim card tray and supports GrapheneOS.

I have the 9 Pro. I cannot imagine anything 10 or 11 could bring to the table that would entice me.

Damn I assumed it was supports cuz pixel. Looks like it will be a 10 for me next.

I've heard that the 11 didn't change much from the 10, and degraded on some key points (security, which is why grapheneos is incompatible), so the 10 is often the recommendation

It's the first Pixel incompatible with GrapheneOS, so not worth it for me.

Wow, the (youtube) comments are a lot less upset with that video than I was expecting. Almost feels like a massive bot campaign was stopped. Or his genuine support has dropped like an anvil. Or both.

All by itself, I expect not. But with some luck, it'll be a little chip in the shell that's been constructed.

to me the whole republican party is part of this and with the violation of the constitution as policy im no longer willing to pretend its a valid political party and not a traitorous anti american organization.

From the sounds of it, the quality point won't matter.

No, I don't think so.

I think they've let themselves sit in an echo chamber that only affirms their prior assumptions for too long, and I think its going to be a painful process trying to pull them out.

But the logical consequence of the alternative is to either kill them or do a concentration camp on them. I find both of those to be morally reprehensible, so thisis me attempting the conversion route.

I think Morpheus described my rake on it pretty well (first 40 sec of link is the important bit): https://youtu.be/zDO1Q_ox4vk

Oh, they're broke MFs; they ain't buying a new phone any time soon. And when they do, it'll be the cheapest most poorly made one they could dig out of a Goodwill bin. sigh as an IT type, its frustrating watching theyre lack of security posture on the matter.

But anyway, I was hoping to send to point out the lack of quality of products that Trump is slapping his name on. Its the most minor point in getting them off the Maga train, but I figure every little bit helps.