[–] 3 points 7 months ago* (1 child)

In most Western countries, all products have a basic warranty, required by law. Meaning: If that shit breaks real fast, you can return it and get your money back.

The issue with cheap Chinese goods is that returning them is unrealistic. The subsidized shipping only works one way. It's often the case that it costs more to ship the product back than the product costs in the first place.

Because of the mandatory warrantees, western consumers have a bare minimum expectation of the quality of any given product. Most Chinese-made products fail to meet that expectation. Hence, the reputation that Chinese products are crap.

You can't hand wave this problem away, saying you get what you pay for (also a common saying in the West). It's systemic. Also, I've taken risks buying more expensive versions of the same products and had the exact same result.

Meaning: Almost all of the time, you don't get what you pay for when you buy Chinese products. Rather, if you pay any more than the bare minimum, you're wasting your money.

This isn't a good situation for China or Western consumers! China doesn't like the reputation they've built and the West just wants decent stuff that meet basic standards of quality (and safety!).

Let me make something clear: There is no situation where paying very little should result in receiving a dangerous product. You cannot point to a power supply that caught fire and say, "should've paid more!" You cannot look at a plastic toy that leaches lead into the skin (and children's mouths) and say, "should've spent more money!"

In the West, companies that made such things would be held liable and probably go out of business very quickly. Their executives would be in the news and probably be testifying before angry Congressmen with even angrier constituents in the audience.

For some reason, Chinese manufacturers not only continue to make total crap—some of which is dangerous—they thrive on making such crap. No one seems to care in China. It's like you say, making money is all that matters. It is so obviously the general belief in China that it is the consumer's fault when products fail. You said so yourself!

So I ask you this: Was it the parents fault for feeding their babies contaminated baby formula? Should the people who installed toxic drywall have known better? Did the people who died from contaminated blood thinner deserve it for being poor consumers?

Perhaps the parents who bought Chinese made toys heavily contaminated with lead should've bought the expensive scanners and tested all the toys before giving them to their children? Or performed ASTM testing themselves to ensure the magnets inside various toys wouldn't fall out and choke and kill their children?

Let me tell you something: Toys made in West go through such testing. It was a lesson learned in blood over decades.

For some reason, China has yet to learn the lessons. Or perhaps it's Chinese culture just to not care and blame the victims?

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  • [–] 17 points 7 months ago* (9 children)

    As an American, I'm pleased with China's:

    • Renewable energy adoption
    • Electric vehicle progress
    • Battery technology advancement
    • Their willingness to subsidize shipping and other supply chain stuff so that I can order cheap parts and PCBs (Chinese citizens are paying for that in their taxes... Thanks!)

    I'm disappointed and even appalled with China's:

    • Treatment of their own citizens (especially Uyghurs, people in Tibet)
    • Endless bullshit regarding Taiwan (just leave them alone already!)
    • Social credit system
    • Installing secret back doors in electronic products
    • Helping North Korea
    • What they did in Hong Kong
    • Allowing the same people to remain in charge for so long (that's never a good idea)
    • Lack of regulations (or enforcement) that protect their own people. Move to the 8 hour work day already! They need the equivalent of OSHA that actually does their job.
    • Completely untrustworthy government when it comes to negotiating in good faith

    The last two are the reasons why no one trusts China or many entire product categories if they originate in China. Example: Who TF is going to buy Chinese baby formula‽

    In the US we have a saying, "cheap Chinese junk." It's often said after some cheap Chinese product fails, often spectacularly (e.g. emits smoke or catches fire). There's so many examples of this in my own life it's kind of unreal:

    • Power supplies that have no moving parts yet fail completely within a year
    • Plastic stuff that just breaks for no good reason (presumably because they didn't add a UV stabilizer to the raw plastic? Just wild speculation on my part)
    • Anything with metal parts will rust or degrade so fast you wonder how it even made it to America without self destructing.

    I can go on and on about the poor quality of tons of Chinese-made products but you get the idea. Having said that, there's plenty of great Chinese brands that make quality stuff. It's just that there's so much more cheap/generic stuff from China that competes with the good stuff it gets drowned out.

    If I were in charge over there, the first thing I'd do is start real inspections of consumer goods. I mean, it shouldn't even be possible for a company to ship a children's product with lead in it! Mandatory inspections! Of everything. Also, if any of your inspectors are offered a bribe, give them a great big bonus for reporting it and make the person who tried to bribe them suffer. China ultimately executed the folks responsible for the baby formula thing... More of that! Show the world you're serious about reliability and safety.

    I'd go even further and hire foreigners to inspect Chinese products, right there in China. Give them the authority to shut down assembly lines when products start showing signs of contamination. Be as open and transparent as possible!

    Of course, the social credit system needs to go. Government should not be rating their people. That's just evil. Let the market do it with background checks and credit scores 🤣

    (I admit that's not great either, but it's infinitely better than having the government do it)

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  • [–] 38 points 7 months ago (7 children)

    I have ADHD, which means I have to go to a psychiatrist every three months to refill my prescription. It's silly, really but required by law.

    Before he died suddenly of an aneurysm, my former psychiatrist was fascinated with me. He said it was because I'm always so jovial... Which I understand now is something of an oddity at a psychiatrist's office 🤣

    Anyway, because if this, he would often give me tests and puzzles to develop "a baseline". Apparently so he wouldn't lose his own mind from the more extreme patients he often dealt with 😁

    I signed his forms (it was all above board) and he'd test my reaction time, run me through various questionaires about my thoughts, and time how long it would take me to solve simple puzzles. Only challenging one was one of those "fold the boxes in your mind" tests which I assume I aced (that's my jam!)

    I didn't mind at all! It was actually quite fun working with his staff and psychiatrists in training who were the ones who were always there, recording the results. I would make jokes like, "I've been practicing my jumping!" Then pretend to be disappointed that they were only going to ask me questions and not test my jumping ability.

    I was the lab rat. Probably the control lab rat but it was still fun and interesting. The best perk was that when I walked into his office, the receptionist would notice me and send me right to the back. No matter how many people were sitting there, waiting.

    There were snacks, but only for children ☹️

    Now that I think about it, the various tests and questions could've been a ruse! They were actually testing my willpower, sitting next to bowls of mini packages of M&Ms and Reese's the entire time! 🤔

    Now I'm imagining his notes:

    "Subject 294 still hasn't taken or attempted to steal any candy. Despite timing his appointment precisely around lunch time and keeping him here for an extra half an hour. He's still laughing and joking with the staff. I may have to order an ice cream machine."

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  • [–] 77 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Remember folks: Republicans are OK with this. They want their authority to punish those they feel deserve it. That includes journalists that make them look bad... By recording reality.

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  • [–] 25 points 7 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (10 children)

    I'm going to go out on a limb here and ask, "why can't inmates have a computer?"

    I mean, if it's not hooked up to the Internet, who cares? It's not a dangerous weapon. It's basically a fancy book and writing device. Maybe some games.

    If prisoners are looking at porn and playing offline computer games why does that matter? They're not out in society committing crimes. They're just entertaining themselves with harmless activities.

    I guess I'm firmly in the camp of, "the reason to put someone in prison is because they couldn't behave out in society" (for whatever reason/crime). Not to torture them with boredom for n months/years.

    If someone is a career criminal, I have zero faith in the system to "reform" them. It assumes there's something wrong with them that needs to be fixed. When everyone knows that there's loads of people in prison that don't belong there. That are absolutely zero danger to society.

    IMHO, a "reformed" prisoner is one that was never going to commit the same crimes again anyway. When the system makes such claims it's just patting itself on the back, trying to justify its existence.

    Example: Like we're going to "reform" someone who got addicted to pain killers. As if it was a simple behavioral problem.

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