After I sent that message, I realized it was not fair for me to ask you to provide sources I could easily look up myself, so I just looked a few up myself and found some similar results as you did. Overall the data is still lacking or incomplete, and you also see studies like this...

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7846503/

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9331831/

Perhaps the NIH (ncbi) has an agenda? It's been over a decade since I got my BA in neuroscience, but I can see the value of both arguments. I'm sure your qualifications to speak on this are just as high, if not higher than mine.

I get that my logic is not perfect, and I don't think we should be pandering to the neonazis or the neoliberals. The wisest solution is not always the most logical, however, and we must pick our battles - new ones every few years. We need pragmatic legislation that helps everyone, before we start to address niche difficult issues like transgender equality in sports.

For now, I still think a bandaid solution is best; Trans women of any age cannot compete with cis women unless it's expressly allowed by the regulatory committee of that particular sport - i.e. in an open division or in a sport where physical traits are not a statistical predictor of success.

That would help liberals and republicans get off this merry-go-round of absurd hypotheticals and focus on the major issues happening now, affecting us all.

Thank you for the well thought out response. I would love to see the studies about trans women athletes having no statistical advantage over cis women if you have them handy. I just want to learn, but unfortunately most people come into these arguments with just disgust and phobia, and I don't think we should be picking a battle with them at this time. I think that's a time for when we've resolved the issue of the electoral college and restored a true vote for all. If I were trans, I would like to think my vote counting, the climate, or fair pay would be more important to me than playing sports

I understand that MtF athletes are exceedingly rare and certainly not an issue worth platforming an entire campaign on (right or left). I identify as a progressive and want to focus on wealth redistribution, green energy, healthcare, and election reform. Can we just say that MtF athletes should complete with cis males or other trans athletes and be done with it? Otherwise we are going to be very divided as a country about something that only affects 1 percent of the population.

Would a good solution just be to make all bathrooms gender neutral, and use more private stalls with concierge service like they do in Japan?

I used to have a recurring adventure dream/nightmare like this when I was a kid. Except the hut was NOT indestructible.

They did the math. Thank you sir!

Ok so it's just actually the KGB now. Or gestapo, don't know which one is more similar

During the summer months, you can just get away with wearing a swimsuit most days. Just get used to going in the pool pretty frequently after workouts and voila, your laundry and shower is taken care of. I used to ride my bike to the pool every day then do this, but I was like 10 so nobody raised an eyebrow

This is awesome

This was a great idea btw OP thank you!

Keep your eye on the ball (not the balls)

I'm happy to be clear headed today :)