[–] 1 point 1 week ago

I recognize that English is spoken all over the world and there are many regional differences but to me (and I think most Americans) Jewish = practices Judaism. People who are ethnically Jewish will say “ethnically Jewish” or something more specific like ashkenazi etc. Your comment seems to imply to you “Jewish” means the race not the religion so let me clarify I was referring to the religion exclusively throughout.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 week ago

    I’m not even sure what you’re trying to say here? I’m well aware this is the same for all religions. It won’t surprise you to believe I oppose all religions. If it helps I will even go so far as to amend that to say all religions I’ve taken the time to be knowledgeable about because obviously I’m human and don’t know everything.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    Because you then compared the guy saying religions with problematic teachings are problematic to a racists. A take you notably did not even discuss in the comment I said I had no disagreement with.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 week ago (15 children)

    before I say what I’m about to say I want to be clear I don’t think Judaism = Zionism and I agree that Netanyahu is absolutely pushing that narrative to support his goals.

    That said I think your comparison to race here is quite unfair. Bigotry surrounding race, sex, orientation etc is fundamentally different than religion. It needs to be acknowledged that profiling behaviors based on race, sex, orientation etc is wrong in large part because those things have very little to do with people’s behavior or beliefs outside their narrow domain. So the only broad stroke statements to make about them are bigoted and hateful.

    On the other hand religion shapes someone’s entire worldview and how they act. I think it’s a bit of a problem that somehow we’ve convinced ourselves which cult you joined deserves as much respect how you were born. It doesn’t. And while not everyone who’s a member of the cult believes all its tenets it’s entirely fair to acknowledge that the central tenets of these cults are deeply problematic in themselves.

    So yeah lots of people who call themselves Jewish are not Zionist but that requires not accepting key parts of the central texts. So I guess what I’m saying is for Non-Zionist Jewish people I think the burden of proof is kinda on them to clarify. When you identify yourself as a member of a cult I’m gonna assume you follow its teachings unless you tell me otherwise. Similarly we can’t pretend the existence of the cult is entirely independent of the existence of fundamentalists that take its texts to the most literal and problematic extreme.

    Holy war and its war crimes have plagued humanity for literally its entire history and I think we need to be honest about the fact that while individual people who are members of these cults may not be problematic the continued acceptance of these widespread cults in the modern era totally is.

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