▲ 606 ▼ Motorola Signature 27 with GrapheneOS will cost €1.900 (www.heise.de) submitted 2 days ago by sonstwas@sh.itjust.works to c/technology@lemmy.world 449 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 74 points 2 days ago (18 children) Who are the customers for such a ridiculous thing? permalink fedilink source hideshow 18 child comments replies: [–] MrSoup@lemmy.zip 37 points 2 days ago Drug lords permalink fedilink source parent [–] Azazel@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 days ago (12 children) As someone whos grew up on iPhones this feels reasonable for a high end product… permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 67 points 2 days ago (10 children) Reasonable is $900. Just because apple made a $2000 phone doesn't mean everyone does. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago (8 children) I had a Nexus 4 for $300 way back when, and that was mighty premium enough. We're all getting screwed and there is no savior. The water has been boiling for over a decade. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 5 points 2 days ago (7 children) My current phone cost $500 and it's more than powerful & capable enough. Android sucks to use but other than that I have no idea why anyone would get anything more expensive unless they need some really good camera. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (6 children) Android does suck but is superior to iOS. If only linux was realistic on a phone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] DosDude@retrofed.com 3 points 2 days ago (5 children) Jolla phone, with SailfishOS exists. Mine will be sent out soon! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Ghoelian@piefed.social 4 points 2 days ago (1 child) I'm typing this from my jolla phone right now! It's definitely not perfect but I'm really happy with it, and it has totally replaced my android phone at this point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] DosDude@retrofed.com 2 points 2 days ago Good to hear! I can't wait. Haven't been this excited for a phone in ages permalink fedilink source parent [–] wide_eyed_stupid@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago Mine too! The Sept II batch! permalink fedilink source parent [–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 child) I am intrigued for sure, I want to try them out but none of my drawer phones suit it or postmarket. There a few limitations, banking, camera, car projection. But they are getting better. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] DosDude@retrofed.com 3 points 2 days ago* There is android auto support made by a user. Banking depends on the bank. And camera is also getting some community love. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BlaestEgnen@feddit.dk 2 points 2 days ago Samsung does too, the aim is office workers in European + USA, which gets a new phone sponsored every few years permalink fedilink source parent [–] Calirath@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago Is it? It costs more than any (bar-style) iPhone. This is priced less than the Oppo X9 Ultra and Vivo X300 Ultra, similarly to the Samsung Galaxy S26 Ultra and the Xiaomi 17 Ultra, and priced more than the Apple iPhone 18 Pro Max and Google Pixel 11 Pro XL –the problem is the subsect of people who are happy paying this price and cares about privacy are abysmally minute. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Auth@lemmy.world -13 points 2 days ago (3 children) This is the normal cost of a new phone no? If I were buying an Iphone or a samsung i'd expect to pay around the same price. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Sunspear@piefed.social 8 points 2 days ago (1 child) When I bought my just-barely-not-current-gen ipad pro, it was 1100€. This phone is more than 60% more expensive than that. I can't imagine buying a mobile device that costs this much permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Auth@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago Oh I did not notice that was in Euro. Jesus christ permalink fedilink source parent [–] im_fine_sandy@nord.pub 0 points 2 days ago Yeah the current high end Samsung galaxy ultra is about the same price in Australia. This is marginally more expensive than flagship phones, but it's not clear how performance will compare. I wonder how much of this higher price point is due to the lack of partnerships with companies like Google who will harvest information about you through the device. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Azazel@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 days ago (12 children) As someone whos grew up on iPhones this feels reasonable for a high end product… permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 67 points 2 days ago (10 children) Reasonable is $900. Just because apple made a $2000 phone doesn't mean everyone does. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago (8 children) I had a Nexus 4 for $300 way back when, and that was mighty premium enough. We're all getting screwed and there is no savior. The water has been boiling for over a decade. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 5 points 2 days ago (7 children) My current phone cost $500 and it's more than powerful & capable enough. Android sucks to use but other than that I have no idea why anyone would get anything more expensive unless they need some really good camera. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (6 children) Android does suck but is superior to iOS. If only linux was realistic on a phone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] DosDude@retrofed.com 3 points 2 days ago (5 children) Jolla phone, with SailfishOS exists. Mine will be sent out soon! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Ghoelian@piefed.social 4 points 2 days ago (1 child) I'm typing this from my jolla phone right now! It's definitely not perfect but I'm really happy with it, and it has totally replaced my android phone at this point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] DosDude@retrofed.com 2 points 2 days ago Good to hear! I can't wait. Haven't been this excited for a phone in ages permalink fedilink source parent [–] wide_eyed_stupid@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago Mine too! The Sept II batch! permalink fedilink source parent [–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 child) I am intrigued for sure, I want to try them out but none of my drawer phones suit it or postmarket. There a few limitations, banking, camera, car projection. But they are getting better. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] DosDude@retrofed.com 3 points 2 days ago* There is android auto support made by a user. Banking depends on the bank. And camera is also getting some community love. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BlaestEgnen@feddit.dk 2 points 2 days ago Samsung does too, the aim is office workers in European + USA, which gets a new phone sponsored every few years permalink fedilink source parent [–] Calirath@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago Is it? It costs more than any (bar-style) iPhone. This is priced less than the Oppo X9 Ultra and Vivo X300 Ultra, similarly to the Samsung Galaxy S26 Ultra and the Xiaomi 17 Ultra, and priced more than the Apple iPhone 18 Pro Max and Google Pixel 11 Pro XL –the problem is the subsect of people who are happy paying this price and cares about privacy are abysmally minute. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 67 points 2 days ago (10 children) Reasonable is $900. Just because apple made a $2000 phone doesn't mean everyone does. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago (8 children) I had a Nexus 4 for $300 way back when, and that was mighty premium enough. We're all getting screwed and there is no savior. The water has been boiling for over a decade. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 5 points 2 days ago (7 children) My current phone cost $500 and it's more than powerful & capable enough. Android sucks to use but other than that I have no idea why anyone would get anything more expensive unless they need some really good camera. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (6 children) Android does suck but is superior to iOS. If only linux was realistic on a phone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] DosDude@retrofed.com 3 points 2 days ago (5 children) Jolla phone, with SailfishOS exists. Mine will be sent out soon! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Ghoelian@piefed.social 4 points 2 days ago (1 child) I'm typing this from my jolla phone right now! It's definitely not perfect but I'm really happy with it, and it has totally replaced my android phone at this point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] DosDude@retrofed.com 2 points 2 days ago Good to hear! I can't wait. Haven't been this excited for a phone in ages permalink fedilink source parent [–] wide_eyed_stupid@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago Mine too! The Sept II batch! permalink fedilink source parent [–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 child) I am intrigued for sure, I want to try them out but none of my drawer phones suit it or postmarket. There a few limitations, banking, camera, car projection. But they are getting better. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] DosDude@retrofed.com 3 points 2 days ago* There is android auto support made by a user. Banking depends on the bank. And camera is also getting some community love. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BlaestEgnen@feddit.dk 2 points 2 days ago Samsung does too, the aim is office workers in European + USA, which gets a new phone sponsored every few years permalink fedilink source parent
[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago (8 children) I had a Nexus 4 for $300 way back when, and that was mighty premium enough. We're all getting screwed and there is no savior. The water has been boiling for over a decade. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 5 points 2 days ago (7 children) My current phone cost $500 and it's more than powerful & capable enough. Android sucks to use but other than that I have no idea why anyone would get anything more expensive unless they need some really good camera. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (6 children) Android does suck but is superior to iOS. If only linux was realistic on a phone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] DosDude@retrofed.com 3 points 2 days ago (5 children) Jolla phone, with SailfishOS exists. Mine will be sent out soon! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Ghoelian@piefed.social 4 points 2 days ago (1 child) I'm typing this from my jolla phone right now! It's definitely not perfect but I'm really happy with it, and it has totally replaced my android phone at this point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] DosDude@retrofed.com 2 points 2 days ago Good to hear! I can't wait. Haven't been this excited for a phone in ages permalink fedilink source parent [–] wide_eyed_stupid@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago Mine too! The Sept II batch! permalink fedilink source parent [–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 child) I am intrigued for sure, I want to try them out but none of my drawer phones suit it or postmarket. There a few limitations, banking, camera, car projection. But they are getting better. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] DosDude@retrofed.com 3 points 2 days ago* There is android auto support made by a user. Banking depends on the bank. And camera is also getting some community love. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 5 points 2 days ago (7 children) My current phone cost $500 and it's more than powerful & capable enough. Android sucks to use but other than that I have no idea why anyone would get anything more expensive unless they need some really good camera. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (6 children) Android does suck but is superior to iOS. If only linux was realistic on a phone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] DosDude@retrofed.com 3 points 2 days ago (5 children) Jolla phone, with SailfishOS exists. Mine will be sent out soon! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Ghoelian@piefed.social 4 points 2 days ago (1 child) I'm typing this from my jolla phone right now! It's definitely not perfect but I'm really happy with it, and it has totally replaced my android phone at this point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] DosDude@retrofed.com 2 points 2 days ago Good to hear! I can't wait. Haven't been this excited for a phone in ages permalink fedilink source parent [–] wide_eyed_stupid@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago Mine too! The Sept II batch! permalink fedilink source parent [–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 child) I am intrigued for sure, I want to try them out but none of my drawer phones suit it or postmarket. There a few limitations, banking, camera, car projection. But they are getting better. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] DosDude@retrofed.com 3 points 2 days ago* There is android auto support made by a user. Banking depends on the bank. And camera is also getting some community love. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (6 children) Android does suck but is superior to iOS. If only linux was realistic on a phone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] DosDude@retrofed.com 3 points 2 days ago (5 children) Jolla phone, with SailfishOS exists. Mine will be sent out soon! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Ghoelian@piefed.social 4 points 2 days ago (1 child) I'm typing this from my jolla phone right now! It's definitely not perfect but I'm really happy with it, and it has totally replaced my android phone at this point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] DosDude@retrofed.com 2 points 2 days ago Good to hear! I can't wait. Haven't been this excited for a phone in ages permalink fedilink source parent [–] wide_eyed_stupid@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago Mine too! The Sept II batch! permalink fedilink source parent [–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 child) I am intrigued for sure, I want to try them out but none of my drawer phones suit it or postmarket. There a few limitations, banking, camera, car projection. But they are getting better. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] DosDude@retrofed.com 3 points 2 days ago* There is android auto support made by a user. Banking depends on the bank. And camera is also getting some community love. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DosDude@retrofed.com 3 points 2 days ago (5 children) Jolla phone, with SailfishOS exists. Mine will be sent out soon! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Ghoelian@piefed.social 4 points 2 days ago (1 child) I'm typing this from my jolla phone right now! It's definitely not perfect but I'm really happy with it, and it has totally replaced my android phone at this point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] DosDude@retrofed.com 2 points 2 days ago Good to hear! I can't wait. Haven't been this excited for a phone in ages permalink fedilink source parent [–] wide_eyed_stupid@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago Mine too! The Sept II batch! permalink fedilink source parent [–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 child) I am intrigued for sure, I want to try them out but none of my drawer phones suit it or postmarket. There a few limitations, banking, camera, car projection. But they are getting better. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] DosDude@retrofed.com 3 points 2 days ago* There is android auto support made by a user. Banking depends on the bank. And camera is also getting some community love. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Ghoelian@piefed.social 4 points 2 days ago (1 child) I'm typing this from my jolla phone right now! It's definitely not perfect but I'm really happy with it, and it has totally replaced my android phone at this point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] DosDude@retrofed.com 2 points 2 days ago Good to hear! I can't wait. Haven't been this excited for a phone in ages permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DosDude@retrofed.com 2 points 2 days ago Good to hear! I can't wait. Haven't been this excited for a phone in ages permalink fedilink source parent
[–] wide_eyed_stupid@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago Mine too! The Sept II batch! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 child) I am intrigued for sure, I want to try them out but none of my drawer phones suit it or postmarket. There a few limitations, banking, camera, car projection. But they are getting better. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] DosDude@retrofed.com 3 points 2 days ago* There is android auto support made by a user. Banking depends on the bank. And camera is also getting some community love. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DosDude@retrofed.com 3 points 2 days ago* There is android auto support made by a user. Banking depends on the bank. And camera is also getting some community love. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BlaestEgnen@feddit.dk 2 points 2 days ago Samsung does too, the aim is office workers in European + USA, which gets a new phone sponsored every few years permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Calirath@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago Is it? It costs more than any (bar-style) iPhone. This is priced less than the Oppo X9 Ultra and Vivo X300 Ultra, similarly to the Samsung Galaxy S26 Ultra and the Xiaomi 17 Ultra, and priced more than the Apple iPhone 18 Pro Max and Google Pixel 11 Pro XL –the problem is the subsect of people who are happy paying this price and cares about privacy are abysmally minute. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Auth@lemmy.world -13 points 2 days ago (3 children) This is the normal cost of a new phone no? If I were buying an Iphone or a samsung i'd expect to pay around the same price. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Sunspear@piefed.social 8 points 2 days ago (1 child) When I bought my just-barely-not-current-gen ipad pro, it was 1100€. This phone is more than 60% more expensive than that. I can't imagine buying a mobile device that costs this much permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Auth@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago Oh I did not notice that was in Euro. Jesus christ permalink fedilink source parent [–] im_fine_sandy@nord.pub 0 points 2 days ago Yeah the current high end Samsung galaxy ultra is about the same price in Australia. This is marginally more expensive than flagship phones, but it's not clear how performance will compare. I wonder how much of this higher price point is due to the lack of partnerships with companies like Google who will harvest information about you through the device. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sunspear@piefed.social 8 points 2 days ago (1 child) When I bought my just-barely-not-current-gen ipad pro, it was 1100€. This phone is more than 60% more expensive than that. I can't imagine buying a mobile device that costs this much permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Auth@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago Oh I did not notice that was in Euro. Jesus christ permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Auth@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago Oh I did not notice that was in Euro. Jesus christ permalink fedilink source parent
[–] im_fine_sandy@nord.pub 0 points 2 days ago Yeah the current high end Samsung galaxy ultra is about the same price in Australia. This is marginally more expensive than flagship phones, but it's not clear how performance will compare. I wonder how much of this higher price point is due to the lack of partnerships with companies like Google who will harvest information about you through the device. permalink fedilink source parent