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[–] 3 points 4 months ago

First add a spoon of grounds or beans. Fill up your cup with water. Next is the fun part. Shake it for 20 thousand years at a few Hz or scream at your coffee as loud as possible for a few months.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago

    See also boozehounds turning everclear into gin or whiskey overnight. Ultrasonic baths are going to be A Thing for consumer gizmos, in the near future, and then probably taper off.

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  • [–] 0 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Just in time for that energy to be funnelled into a data center!

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    [–] 27 points 4 months ago (6 children)

    The ultrasound creates a phenomenon called acoustic cavitation, which is a rapid formation and collapse of microscopic bubbles in the liquid. When these tiny bubbles collapse near the coffee particles, they act like microscopic scrubbing brushes or jets of liquid, pitting and fracturing the coffee grounds and accelerating the bewing process.

    Cavitation Wikipedia

    That is such a cool use of an observed phenomenon.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (5 children)

    Begs the question, can it be used in conjunction with other cooking methods to reduce energy usage?

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (3 children)

    Well, usually the heat is being used to actually chemically change the food. Coffee beans are pre-roasted and you're just using hot water to get the coffee into the liquid. It's not like this technique could be used to cook meat or vegetables. Liquefy them, possibly.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (2 children)

    Was thinking microwave or reheating things evenly from within, particularly liquids like soup.

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  • [–] 16 points 4 months ago* (3 children)

    Just what we needed, merging of the espresso nerd and audiophile demographics.

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  • [–] 13 points 4 months ago

    Fascinating. They can make room-temperature coffee in far less time than cold-brew. Could be really great for places that sell a lot of iced coffee.

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  • [–] 12 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    A few months ago I saw a video of someone who used an ultrasonic cleaner to make extracts, so i tried it. I did 30 - 60 mins for each of orange peel, banana peel, pepper corn, anise, vanilla bean, cinnamon, and coffee. The coffee smelled absolutely disgusting, but this was like an hour rather than 3 mins. I had no idea how much time was appropriate. I also used vodka instead of water. Idk why I thought the coffee would work. The rest seem roughly what I'd expect. I've done traditional extracts previously. It makes sense to try water for coffee. I feel dumb for not trying that obvious combination.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago* (1 child)

    sounds like the thought emporium?

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    The video that I watched? It was from How to Drink, which iirc he said he decided to try and make his video after watching a video that talked about speeding up extracts via ultrasonic cleaner, but I don't recall what he said what was the video he watched.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago

    They better have used The Hottest 100....

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    Ah yes the most important thing to save energy on: the 1500 watt appliance that's on for 15 minutes daily.

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Well, in the home it is, but this is more likely to be impactful for coffee shops. We might end up surprised at where tech like this could take us, even if it doesnt go far in the barista world

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago

    I don't think the "companies making ready-to-drink coffee products at industrial scale" that article is talking about this being designed for are running a 1500 watt appliance for 15 minutes a day.

    They're thinking more that factories won't need to use traditional extractors which generally need to heat stuff to high temperatures to make coffee milk drinks and soluble instant coffee, etc.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago

    I wonder how well it would work for tea

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago

    They recently started doing this with whisky first and i thats when i wanted to go down the path of trying it on all of types of liquids but never had the time or money to do it.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago

    The essence of convection "without" heat?

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago* (3 children)

    This sounds like a great way to torture your family pet. They can hear ultrasound, and the brew time for this is 2 1/2 to 3 minutes.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Proof concepts can be refined to dampen sound beyond the unit. Its cool to save energy.

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    [–] 18 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (4 children)

    Saving up to 75% of energy by not heating the water is a minor benefit for home users or small coffee shops. But for companies making ready-to-drink coffee products at industrial scale, it could be very significant indeed.

    So this is a method to make crap in a bottle or can.

    Gotcha.

    I'll stick with the trusty French Press

    Edit: ...Though I gotta admit it's pretty dang cool that they figured out a new way to brew coffee using cold water and reduce the energy use of large scale production.

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  • [–] 22 points 4 months ago* (1 child)

    Just because they're doing this to chase money to fund their research doesnt mean it couldn't potentially make a better cup or coffee at home. I think its a britllant idea where heat makes the coffee bitter, perhaps there's a magic ratio of heat and ultrasound to make a majestic cup of Joe.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago*

    An edit to my post got lost in the aether as I entered a dead zone at work, on reflection it is cool tech.

    I'm skeptical about inviting more tech into the home for something so simple in this day and age of subscription services and lack of repairability, but if it makes a better cup of coffee, I'd try it.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago

    Industrial-scale coffee brewing can use counter-flow heat exchangers to recover pretty much all the heat energy, combined with insulation to prevent losses.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago

    The spaceage of espresso machines. Heat generation is expensive in space, when the opportunity cost is the atmo circulation. This could be the answer to a problem we haven't yet run into as a species. I dig it.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago

    They've brewed something (very slowly) that compares well to room temperature espresso? That's dandy and all, but I wonder how it compares to a proper espresso, after spending additional energy to heat it.

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    [–] 15 points 4 months ago (5 children)

    Is that something we really need to worry about?

    More importantly, was the coffee better?

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  • [–] 11 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    According the the article, the espresso was rated equal to traditionally brewed. Ultrasound brewed filter coffee was rated as better than traditional.

    Though it sounds like they were all cooled down since the ultrasonic brewing didn't best the water. So that is also a factor. If you like hot coffee, this wouldn't be a worthwhile brewing method.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago

    Open source it. Don't leave it behind a patent. They'll come after you if you try.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Just as good is subjective, the question is, is there a noticeable difference? If there is, that difference could mean everything to serious coffee snobs.

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  • [–] 12 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    According to the article this is aimed at the commercial/industrial level brewers to save energy. So the coffee snobs probably aren't really going to be a target audience. Though if it becomes at all widespread I'm sure people will give it a try. There aren't a shortage of people trying all sorts of wild ways to brew out there.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    Ah so I take it this is likely a replacement for the current process they use to make instant coffee. Which I know is usually brewed in industrial sized percolators. If that's the case I definitely think it would improve the favor.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago

    I am officially tired of seeing this article. I've blocked half a dozen people/bots reposting it. Doesn't help. Perfectly innocent morons are reposting it too.

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    [–] 7 points 4 months ago

    Saving up to 75% of energy by not heating the water is a minor benefit for home users or small coffee shops. But for companies making ready-to-drink coffee products at industrial scale, it could be very significant indeed.

    I guess if you like iced coffee it is a win for that also :)

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Looks legit, especially for cold brews.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 4 months ago

    Definitely a unique approach to coffee making. I was thinking how you do generally want coffee to either be cold or hot, room temperature is the one temperature that just doesn't work.

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