New York City Mayor Zohran Mamdani, once a figure of contention among leaders from both major political parties, has seen a remarkable surge in his political standing just six months into office.

The 34-year-old democratic socialist, a prominent figure on the progressive left, has garnered unexpected praise from both Donald Trump and New York Governor Kathy Hochul.

He has also emerged as the face of the region's sports renaissance. Now, days before New York's primary elections,

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[–] 127 points 4 months ago (6 children)

Electing someone who is actually DOING STUFF for the city he's elected to run? I mean, yeah we should totally hate that. 😩

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  • [–] 56 points 4 months ago* (2 children)

    electing someone who even understands what their job even is seems to be a welcome change. Schumer claims his whole job is keeping the dems in line with what a foreign power wants. And almost all of congress seem sto agree. Thats not their job at all. And that rot goes top to bottom through both parties. The president and judiciary also dont seem to understand what their jobs are anymore. Cops too, no frickin idea what they do exactly.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago*

    He has certainly achieved many things from his list. Which I think is a good thing: politicians are obviously supposed to do what they promise to do.

    The actual effect of those changes will be seen in the next decade, not right now. I mean the economic changes like rent freezes, childcare funding, "affordable housing". Devil is in the details, so those things might go fine or they might go pretty badly.

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  • [–] 241 points 4 months ago (35 children)

    Progressives have been hoping for someone like Mamdani to actually win an election for a long time, now. If he is what finally instigates a break in the wall the Democratic party has erected, it's not surprising that others are picking up their sledgehammers.

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  • [–] 84 points 4 months ago (33 children)

    But leftists are both useless and totally destructive at the same time according to neo-liberals.

    I hope this brings enough change to make the Democrats actually progressive instead of giving lips service to it then doubling down on corporatism.

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  • [–] 51 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    Who cares if the Dems go progressive? It's the voters who are important. The Republicans kept resisting the rising far right movements like the Tea Party, and then MAGA, but the voters just bulldozed right over them.

    The corporatist establishment Democrats all made it extremely clear that they would prefer a corrupt asshole like Adams for Mayor, but the people told them to go fuck themselves, and now the DNC has no choice but to get on board.

    The voters don't have to do what the DNC demands, but the DNC has to live with whoever the voters force upon them.

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  • [–] 10 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    True leftists, like any medium-small minority, can make or break any coalition of medium-small minorities. And likewise, they can't really direct policy all on their own, because the rest of the minorities in the coalition aren't on board yet. One minority can't make it, but they can break it.

    I also hope this brings progressivism to the Democratic party. That would be a good way to bring more of the coalition on board.

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago

    Thank you!

    The thing that drives me crazy is when progressives act like they have a massive majority of the people behind them.

    Back in the day, Jerry Falwell leveraged his Moral Majority into power by sending his church people into every local GOP club.

    If the usual attendance was twenty folks, the MMs would show up with fifty. They might only have fifty followers in the whole town, but all of them were there where it counted.

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    the Democratic Party is a lot less monolithic than people make it out to be, it’s just that a lot of influential people in the back end have been fighting to keep progressives out, arguing that they needed to stay close to republicans to win “moderate” voters.

    More visible progressive wins will erode that narrative and allow various parts of the coalition to abandon the neoliberal orthodoxy imposed on them by corporate consultants. We can’t get anywhere untill that dead weight is dropped. Maybe the Democratic Party won’t be the one to adapt to the new conditions, maybe something new will take their place, but nothing is going to happen till that narrative is dead.

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  • [+] -16 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    I hope this brings enough change to make the Democrats actually progressive instead of giving lips service to it then doubling down on corporatism.

    Its hilarious how people think this is even practically possible

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  • [+] -32 points 4 months ago* (17 children)

    Leftists already attacked him for not firing the cops involved in last winter's snowball fight.

    Kamala Harris received 1,748,140 votes in New York City,

    Zohran Mamdani received 1,036,051 votes

    Thank goodness he wasn't getting more help from the Left.

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  • [–] 19 points 4 months ago (7 children)

    We have a real bad "No True Scotsman" problem

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  • [+] -27 points 4 months ago (6 children)

    I edited my comment to point out that Mamdani got fewer votes than Harris did when she ran in NYC, and Harris did worse against Trump than Biden did.

    People vastly overestimate how popular their positions really are

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  • [–] 40 points 4 months ago* (5 children)

    lol You mean a presidential race got more votes than a mayoral race? Ya don't say?

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  • [+] -22 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    Mamdani got 51% of the vote going against sex criminal Cuomo and shock jock Silwa.

    Harris got about 65% of the NYC vote.

    No way can you pretend that 'the Left' beat the dems.

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  • [–] 38 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

    Mamdani got 51% of the vote going against sex criminal Cuomo and shock jock Silwa.

    That's still over 9% more than the runner up got.

    In a three way election.

    Without the support of his own party.

    With tens if not hundreds of millions of dollars spent on 24/7 smear campaigns against him by both major parties.

    With a unanimous local billionaire-owned media alliance fearmongering about him.

    While spending a total of $10.7m


    Compared to all that, the unequivocal DNC leader getting 65% in a presidential election where 100% of the party political machine was behind her, she was the only alternative to a literal fascist idiot and also sex criminal experiencing severe cognitive decline, and they spent over a billion dollars is absolutely PATHETIC.

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  • [–] 18 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Because general elections historically always have higher turn out. I think that's what they're trying to get at specifically.

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  • [+] -19 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Mamdani got fewer total votes AND a smaller percentage of the vote than Harris.

    If you try to push the narrative that Mamdani and the Left were super popular you're deluding yourself.

    Hopefully he keeps doing a great job and brings in more voters.

    But be real. He got very lucky when Adams got caught in a big scandal, and the only candidate the regular Party could find was already saddled with a giant scandal.

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  • [–] 22 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

    Higher voter turnout changes those percentages. You seem to be thinking that votes scale proportionally with turnout? That's not always the case.

    Anyway the more candidates you have the more split the vote will be. Plus the media/Trump campaign didn't pump millions of dollars into a smear campaign against Harris in NY. Why? Because they didn't expect to turn NY red so they focused resources elsewhere.

    An insane sum of money was spent trying to put Mamdani down

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago (6 children)

    Damn, almost like, there was some sort of third party candidate splitting the vote in his election.

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  • [–] -2 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    Kind of proving my point there.

    People had a choice between a known molester, an idiot, and the Democratic Socialist and the DS barely edged through.

    It's almost as if the progressives don't have a commanding majority and have to work with others if they want to advance.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

    I mean, he still won a significant majority even with the vote split. And he won a majority In precincts that trump won In the election.

    A more interesting question is, if there had been a been serious candidate to the left of Harris in the general election, would she have polled more like coumo did?

    I don’t think it’s safe to assume that she would have won more votes than mamadani did in the same situation. And comparing the outcomes of a national 2 candidate race to a local 3 candidate race is not really telling you anything unless you introduce the counterfactuals and do polling to fill in those gaps.

    Right now we’re seeing a lot of polling showing democrat socialists candidates outperforming corporate democrats in a lot of battle ground and purplish red states. Arguably attempting to appeal to coumo type voters damaged Harris’s chances In battle ground states by alienating unaffiliated voters.

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  • [–] 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Could just tell them what's been told to progressives for decades, "Vote blue no matter who."

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    I can't think of one time in recent US history that a 3rd Party candidate split the ticket and hut the GOP.

    In fact, the GOP regularly throws money to the Libertarians and/or the greens if they think it will help them.

    If people had voted blue we might not have the Supreme Court that threw out Roe V. Wade.

    You might want to read up on Frederick Douglas. In 1860 he had a choice of supporting a strong Abolitionist or Abe Lincoln. Lincoln had repeatedly said that he would keep slavery if it meant keeping the Union together.

    Douglas knew all the horrors of slavery first hand, and knew that it made more sense to win and be on the inside than to lose and no be heard.

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  • [–] 48 points 4 months ago

    Good and carry on. The USA needs a progressive left president too.

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  • [–] 172 points 4 months ago (24 children)

    Amazing what electing somebody who wasn't born in the 1940s can do!

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  • [–] 38 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Oh god. I didn't do this math. This means that the same people in that age bracket were kids glued to the TV during all the McCarthy-era bullshit. No wonder.

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  • [–] 44 points 4 months ago (19 children)

    There are tons of young fascists.

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  • [+] -20 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (17 children)

    are there? hard to say with none of them in charge of anything.

    Seems to me when we get the boomers out of the way, a lot of problems also go away. ever notice how racism and sexism is much more prevalent and "normal" with older people? Stands to reason that putting those people in care homes and out of power would make drastic improvements to society.

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  • [–] 18 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    I think it depends on your definition of "young", but there are the folks like Kyle Rittenhouse, Jacob Chansley, Ben Shapiro, and tons of other netizens younger than Joe Rogan with their hate-mongering podcasts. Being emboldened in the way they are, more seem to be popping out of the woodwork instead of being shamed or reformed into better viewpoints.

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  • [+] -6 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    So if you can name 4 shitty young people then all young people are shitty, thats your assertion?

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago

    Unfortunately, these are all young people with a vast following of young people. Not to mention Charlie Kirk, Andrew Tate…

    Young people skew left and that’s a fact, it’s not a supermajority like it might seem on places like this.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago*

    They are exemplars of what befuddled you from the other poster's note of young fascists out there. Forget about that and just look towards basic reading comprehension to better prepare you for understanding complex concepts like examples.

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  • [–] 17 points 4 months ago

    Teachers are having trouble with boys as young as 8 not listening to them because the manosphere tells them they shouldn't respect women.

    Pretty much everyone went to school with some Young Conservative type who was weirdly into politics at a young age.

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    Are you familiar with the Joshua Generation at all? Literally a training ground for christo-fascists that trained former and current senators.

    There's absolutely young fascists currently in charge. Heck "DOGE" was nothing but a bunch of 20 somethings allowed to enact part of their fascist wet dream.

    Putting the blame on age and not class is why you're getting so ratiod

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  • [–] -3 points 4 months ago* (3 children)

    Ratioed? Kharma's not a thing here so who cares. And maybe I've just met more old people than you have.
    Also your Joshua generation thing doesnt show a prevalance for idiocy in youth, just that some exists. Idiocy in the elderly is a fact of life. Brains dont get better as they age, and the context they grew up in doesnt keep up with the times they live into. I dont care if people like it, people dont get smarter or more relevant to the times as they age.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    There's not karma but it's still a good sign of how many people disagree with your argument and experience.

    Your original comment was to someone saying "there's plenty of young fascists". Didn't say anything about prevalence, just that there's enough to be a problem. That' prevalence argument is bullshit you added. You've said they aren't in charge of anything. You were given direct evidence of examples of young fascists existing and being in charge of things.

    You trying to make it an age based thing is just asking for trouble because it's setting up complacency instead of fighting the fascists no matter who they are.

    "I've met more old people than you" is such a dumb and weak argument I legitimately don't even know where to begin there.

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  • [–] 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 child)

    That’ prevalence argument is bullshit you added.

    No. Using inductive thinking is the bullshit you started with. You cant use a small sample size to make generalizations across a group of people. You have to deal with any discussion of a group of people by talking about them in terms of proportionality or percentages. You cant say "mushroommonk on Lemmy doesnt underdstand the most basic logic, so clearly no one on Lemmy understands basic logic." Thatd be bullshit. Get it?

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  • [–] 0 points 4 months ago

    Except the group being discussed is the group of young fascists. That's it. The entire group is the ones that exist. Your false equivalence trying to extrapolate from there is adding another group.

    Please just go learn some basic reading comprehension. I'm not the only one to point this out.

    I'm out

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    At the very least, the younger generation would have less lead to addle their brains.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Or at least different kinds of addling. Although, I suspect that algorithmic social media does less long term damage than persistent developmental lead poisoning (SERIOUSLY, WHAT THE FUCK? LEADED GASOLINE?)

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago* (1 child)

    Seems to me when we get the boomers out of the way, a lot of problems also go away.

    Perhaps, but then we'll have the more difficult problem of having to fix things ourselves with nobody else to blame. If you think Democratic Socialists have all the right answers, you're gonna be a bit disillusioned soon.

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  • [–] 37 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Republicans, propping up Mamdani?

    Interesting strategy. But you know what they say, never interrupt your enemy while they're making a fatal mistake.

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  • [–] 35 points 4 months ago

    "We were surprised to discover that, underneath all the bullshit, people just want happiness, peace and opportunity".

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  • [–] 10 points 4 months ago (5 children)

    Isn't he self-described as a "democratic socialist"? (I mean, his faction aren't super radical socialist as far as I'm aware, in terms of trying to bring about a workers democracy. The NYC "city run" grocery stores are just contacted out, not actually city run. But hey, it's way, way, way better than what other US political factions are doing)

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