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[–] 4 points 4 months ago

Epstein had clients everywhere, anyone know if he's still alive? Can't seem to find much on him.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    One version of "broken windows" (I have heard a few) is that stopping little crimes early leads to an overall reduction in crime. One explanation is that criminals tend to commit more than one crime.

    Anyway, if these shit bags had been prosecuted 17 years ago, the world would be a much, much, better place. 17 years ago puts this under President Bush or President Obama. Though in those days presidents didn't involve themselves much in the justice department (maybe).

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    [+] 68 points 4 months ago (5 children)
  • [–] 15 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Holy shit it is? Maybe the Reckless Ben Lego war is going to go even deeper then..

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  • [–] 9 points 4 months ago

    My buddy said her friend has a whole bit about Mormons, something like they’re the most connected so you really can’t get anything done unless the Mormons are in on it. Revolution, reform, legislation, organization, all gotta be done with the Mormons.

    I was kinda like ha that’s funny. Then I watched all those Lego videos. I am now Mormon by proxy. Let’s do this shit

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  • [–] 30 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    So there is a list.
    We were told there was no list. We all knew it was a lie.
    But this is proof.

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  • [–] 26 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

    Edit: https://me.mashable.com/culture/68056/epstein-files-shocking-2009-footage-shows-jeffreys-butler-trying-to-sell-black-book-of-victims-to-fb

    'Authorities later arrested Rodriguez for failing to surrender the book as evidence. He reportedly described the document as his “insurance policy,” claiming he feared Epstein might make him “disappear.” Eventually, Rodriguez pleaded guilty to obstruction of justice and served 18 months in prison.

    Rodriguez died in 2014 from mesothelioma, a cancer commonly linked to asbestos exposure. His death was ruled natural.'

    So what is the follow up on this, what happened to the butler? That information could get him charged for child porn and locked away and tortured for life by other inmates. Seems like something the FBI would do to protect Israel's blackmail operation.

    How did this get released? Any articles about it?

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  • [–] 16 points 4 months ago

    Why would the FBI care? They are part of it.

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  • [–] 58 points 4 months ago (21 children)

    Very obviously because he was working with the American and Israeli governments. You are ruled by billionaire pedophile cannibals, and you don't really care enough to do anything about it.

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  • [–] 18 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    No, no, if we just keep talking about the Epstein files they'll release them in their own for some reason! There's no need to get violent, that doesn't solve anything! Ignore the fact that our country was founded through violent revolution, and has a constitution specifically amended to allow another with the understanding that it would be necessary one day!

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  • [–] -1 points 4 months ago (18 children)

    Dude… I live 20 hours away from DC assuming I could afford the gas or my 15 year old car could make it that far, and I only live half way to the other coast. Exactly what the fuck am I supposed to do?

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (17 children)

    Sounds like you're just gonna roll over and accept it, lol.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    Just like you! Your country also feeds the beast, and bows to the same master.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    You think I should overthrow my government because it's an American vassal state?

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  • [–] 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 child)

    You think I should overthrow my government because I'm a vassal, so why not?

    Vassal= vassal

    It's actually easier for you to overthrow the vassal of my country than for me to overthrow the overlord itself. So.... what's your excuse?

    The USA thanks you for your donation to the New World Order. Every hour that you work contributes, don't ever forget it.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    Actually because of tariffs, my industry has almost nothing to do with America, thanks for your input though.

    I'm trying to organize as much as I can. Fortunately, we're not at the point yet where armed resistance is required. You however, I would argue, are at that point.

    Good luck with your fascist pedophile leaders!

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  • [–] 0 points 4 months ago (11 children)

    You didn’t answer my question.

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago (7 children)

    the answer is always the same: collectivize and stop legitimizing captured systems. (ie join/form a union/guild/mutual-aid-group and stop voting for democrats/republicans or labour/tory).

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (6 children)

    So everything I am already doing… got it.

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    Because you, the OP, and others keep acting like there is an easy answer and I really want to know what you think it is. But the reality is that there isn’t an easy answer.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    point to where someone said that the answer was easy.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Get some friends and overthrow your fucking fascist pedophile government. Or don't, I only hope for the collapse of the United States, which seems inevitable either way.

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  • [–] 10 points 4 months ago

    Ils that Guy still alive?

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago

    sell the client & victim

    I guess he didn't get his "sexual exploitation of children for profit" license from the FBI.

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  • [–] 14 points 4 months ago

    Reading the guesswork here and the reporting (and lack thereof) on it, there aren't too many options.

    The material was used as kompromat - IOW, if they prosecute the rich and the rich then spill the beans on everyone else in this despicable circle of money and power. Everyone who took bribes or other compensation, people skimming off the top one way or another, got jobs because of the favor of the rich, and of course sex and drugs I’m sure.

    Everyone shuts up because everyone is guilty.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago

    thanks Obama

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago

    Just when you think it really can't get any worse...

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago (11 children)

    Kill the rich, save the poor. Taxation, is not enough for the current era. There must be justice for the crimes committed. Once they are dead, then we can figure out how to run the world without capitalism. Untill then, the elimination of the ultra-rich by any means should be the goal. Everything else is noise.

    In addition: We have the power. The US power grid is fragile. As such if we all turn off our power at the exact same time, we can cripple the grid. On July 4th at 11pm cst exactly, we can all power down our homes. Even if only 50% do it, it will enough. We have the power, and we will stop these monsters by any means necessary!

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  • [–] 13 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    Why are people upvoting this, it makes zero sense. Turning off your home power accomplishes absolutely nothing.

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  • [–] 0 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    To elloborate: If all Americans were to cut thier power at the same exact time (or as close to same time as possible,) the power grid would not be able to handle it. How is it different than a power outage? In an outage powrr fails to route to where power is wanted. Even in these sanarios if too much power is shunted to a spot due to power trying find a spot to go, it pops transformers or other power grid equipment. Now imagine it on a mass scale. A Simi dosent stop just because it ran out of road. Why this would work: In the past there were efforts to turn off the lights at an exact time for eco reasons. Like : "lights off at 10pm to save energy!" they were told that it is OK to do this BUT they had to turn off lights and power GRADUALLY because of the effect I said above. Thus, if we all power off our homes, or all our lights at the same time, we could damage the grid.

    Why did I include this in post? we need a bargaining chip. We need a credible real threat to fight back.

    It's hard to get people to go outside with a gun. it's hard to get people to outside and hunt down the ultra rich. It's even hard for people to protest because they don't have time to do it because they must survive.

    But it is easy to get everyone to turn off a light. Even the ones who don't touch grass can turn off a light switch. If they can like a post, they can flip a switch. It's even easy to get the "non-political" people to go along with this because we can just tell them it's an eco effort or something.

    Risk factors: If Americans actually do it: it will knock out power for several months. (up side it forces all of us to replace equipment that probobly needed to be) if it succeededs. If the us government and energy companies counter by preping for the sudden stop, the meters will still be running thus giving a physical way to measure how many people are protesting. So even if the "attack" fails, the power companies can see how pissed we are and thus report it to the local government which then reports to federal. So even if it "fails" the fact that we're willing to try shows how upset we Americans are in a way they cannot ignore. It shows we are looking for ways to take our power back by force.

    But I say if they want us to go back in time why not go even further?

    But what of the innocent that need power to survive? 2 responses: 1. Should of thought about that before becoming a facisit nation. 2. The current regime said "empathy is weakness." just following the example set by our "great" leaders.

    How are the "kill the rich" statement and this are connected: When there is no power, there are no cameras. Cameras powered by solar can be removed. No cameras means no ability to track crimes. Now we can use techniques that are more overt, like raiding the ultra-riches home. Why not just attack thier homes directly? No power means no cell signal, no way to track people before they get there. Historical context; if we had cameras back in the civil rights movement back country cops and kkk members would had more trouble Lynching people they didn't like. The reverse is also true. No witnesses, no crime.

    But more importantly: it's a mutually assured distruction tactic, they can't rule over something that is destroyed and in chaos. And like I said, we will stop this regime BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY.

    Why the date and time: we need to do this before power companies spend most of the generator budget on Ai centers. right now it mostly serves homes and businesses, if we break the current equipment power companies will have to choose between serving the population or serving the Ai overlords. Power companies hire the most working class of working class to do thier work, so .. Might be hard to convince them to serve the Ai overlord over thier families.

    I think this gets it all.. If not I will explain further.

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Yess, let’s collectively cripple our electrical grid for months just before we start hitting what will likely be record high temps in the summer under an administration that has proven to not give a shit about the health or safety of the people.

    On your points re: “what about the innocent that need power to survive?”

    1. Do you think the current government is a fair representation of the will of the people? I can only speculate but the “innocent” as you described them surely didn’t ask to be in a facist nation.
    2. Glad to know you’re just as bad as them

    I’m not even going to acknowledge the rest of your post because this idea is about as good as crashing your car to get attention from your crush. You say it’s mutually assured destruction but I think they’d be more than happy to rule over defunct chaos as that seems to be their end goal anyways.

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  • [+] 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)
  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    The US power grid is fragile. As such if we all turn off our power at the exact same time, we can cripple the grid. On July 4th at 11pm cst exactly, we can all power down our homes. Even if only 50% do it, it will enough.

    Please explain.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago

    Sure thing. If all Americans were to cut thier power at the same exact time (or as close to same time as possible,) the power grid would not be able to handle it. How is it different than a power outage? In an outage powrr fails to route to where power is wanted. Even in these sanarios if too much power is shunted to a spot due to power trying find a spot to go, it pops transformers or other power grid equipment. Now imagine it on a mass scale. A Simi dosent stop just because it ran out of road. Why this would work: In the past there were efforts to turn off the lights at an exact time for eco reasons. Like : "lights off at 10pm to save energy!" they were told that it is OK to do this BUT they had to turn off lights and power GRADUALLY because of the effect I said above. Thus, if we all power off our homes, or all our lights at the same time, we could damage the grid.

    Why did I include this in post? we need a bargaining chip. We need a credible real threat to fight back.

    It's hard to get people to go outside with a gun. it's hard to get people to outside and hunt down the ultra rich. It's even hard for people to protest because they don't have time to do it because they must survive.

    But it is easy to get everyone to turn off a light. Even the ones who don't touch grass can turn off a light switch. If they can like a post, they can flip a switch. It's even easy to get the "non-political" people to go along with this because we can just tell them it's an eco effort or something.

    Risk factors: If Americans actually do it: it will knock out power for several months. (up side it forces all of us to replace equipment that probobly needed to be) if it succeededs. If the us government and energy companies counter by preping for the sudden stop, the meters will still be running thus giving a physical way to measure how many people are protesting. So even if the "attack" fails, the power companies can see how pissed we are and thus report it to the local government which then reports to federal. So even if it "fails" the fact that we're willing to try shows how upset we Americans are in a way they cannot ignore. It shows we are looking for ways to take our power back by force.

    But I say if they want us to go back in time why not go even further?

    But what of the innocent that need power to survive? 2 responses: 1. Should of thought about that before becoming a facisit nation. 2. The current regime said "empathy is weakness." just following the example set by our "great" leaders.

    How are the "kill the rich" statement and this are connected: When there is no power, there are no cameras. Cameras powered by solar can be removed. No cameras means no ability to track crimes. Now we can use techniques that are more overt, like raiding the ultra-riches home. Why not just attack thier homes directly? No power means no cell signal, no way to track people before they get there. Historical context; if we had cameras back in the civil rights movement back country cops and kkk members would had more trouble Lynching people they didn't like. The reverse is also true. No witnesses, no crime.

    But more importantly: it's a mutually assured distruction tactic, they can't rule over something that is destroyed and in chaos. And like I said, we will stop this regime BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY.

    Why the date and time: we need to do this before power companies spend most of the generator budget on Ai centers. right now it mostly serves homes and businesses, if we break the current equipment power companies will have to choose between serving the population or serving the Ai overlords. Power companies hire the most working class of working class to do thier work, so .. Might be hard to convince them to serve the Ai overlord over thier families.

    I think this gets it all.. If not I will explain further.

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    [+] -7 points 4 months ago

    If Obama hadn't been on it, he could have ordered the release of the files and declare himself the greatest president ever

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    [–] 40 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Genuinely just dumbfounded when I got to the point in the video where the little popup blurb refers to Epstein with the memed "disgraced financier" title. Holy shit, just call him the "infamous child sex trafficker", that's what almost everybody who knows his name knows him for.

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago*

    No, no, ya see you just don't get it.

    Let me break it down for you.

    Poor person that's a pedo = pedo

    No matter what that person does, that's what they'll be (as it should be).

    Rich person that's a pedo = disgraced financier or president of the United States that just so happens to also be an alleged pedo.

    Get it?

    The media loves to make up all sorts of weird stuff like this mostly for headlines. Some random peasant that diddles kids isn't new but a rich one is apparently?

    Just like when a woman is a pedo (aka rapes little boys or girls) the news refers to it as "sex" but when a man does it it's "sexual assault" or "rape" even though both the man and the woman are pedo rapists... It's a sick, twisted world we live in.

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  • [–] 24 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    The FBI was actively protecting Epstein. I don't know how we don't immediately come to this conclusion

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  • [–] 15 points 4 months ago (5 children)

    I'm not sure if it is worse when the fbi does nothing or when it does something...

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  • [–] 14 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    I mean it’s probably because they saw the client list and were like

    wow so uh all these guys control our salaries and are on all the oversight committees and are Big Deals in the executive branch, so maybe we shouldn’t piss them off 😳

    Which, to be clear, is the most absolutely fucking heinous and pants-on-head stupid reaction a person can have to this sort of thing. But, you know, it’s the US government, so that’s pretty true to form.

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  • [–] 10 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    FBI feels like a company HR department. They're there to protect national and politicians' interests, not the public's.

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Tbh, the J Edgar Hoover era was deeply problematic for a number of huge reasons, but one issue they didn’t have was investigatorial independence from whoever was in office. This whole “the regime gets to wield the DoJ and FBI as a cudgel against our political opponents and people who don’t support them” thing is unbelievably caustic, on so many levels.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    You’re right, instead Hoover got to wield the FBI as a cudgel against his political opponents and people who didn’t support him

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  • That’s one of the big reasons. Hoover was deeply misguided in what he did and how he did it. But at the same time, he was definitely more mission-driven - in the sense that a large part of his motivation was to establish the FBI as an investigative agency beholden to the country, not any politician in particular. It’s just that his interpretation of “what’s good for the country” unfortunately included a lot of somewhat paranoid and violently reactionary motivations, because he perceived a lot of relatively benign political disagreements as personal attacks on him and/or the agency.

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    Stories like this are why I do not think of Clinton/Bush/Obama/Biden as separate entities from Donald when it comes to discussion of the Epstein Files. These fuckers knew and there was no accountability or justice.

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