Hetzner is one of the go-to server providers for Fediverse instances, in part due to its cheap offerings while still providing high quality service. However, Hetzner has announced a price adjustment, which has increased the prices of some servers as much as 3-4 times the original. This kind of ruins the point in using Hetzner, as the main appeal was Hetzner's cheap server prices.

Some of their servers haven't increased an insane amount, for example, the CAX41 offering has gone from €31.49 monthly to €40.99 (30% increase). Others are much higher though; CPX41 has gone from €38.99 monthly to €120.49 (209% increase)!

To any Fediverse admins using Hetzner, how would you see this affecting your instance? Will you be migrating to a different service or sticking with Hetzner even with the price hike?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe existing servers will be grandfathered in to the old price point, so that will certainly buy some time to find a potential alternative.

I personally am using Hetzner for my Mbin instance, but the price increase doesn't seem completely unreasonable for the specific server I am currently using. I do not see myself needing to rescale the server any time soon, so I should be able to keep the old price anyway.


Hacker news discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48540844

Hetzner price adjustment table: https://docs.hetzner.com/general/infrastructure-and-availability/price-adjustment/

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[–] 31 points 4 months ago (1 child)

There was a big price increase a month or two ago that affected existing servers. I think this is recognizing that Hetzner just can’t acquire new servers (particularly memory) at anywhere close to what they could before. RAM prices are up about 400% in the past year and rising, and I think even server chassis and CPUs are being largely soaked up by the mesoscale datacenter builds.

Net net, this sucks. And my expectation is that Hetzner will still be the cheapest game in town by about the same percentages as before. It the costs keep going up, I think we will see the fediverse starting to struggle.

Between the absolute crush of bot registrations and the spiraling costs, I have been contemplating moving to a required donation for new accounts.

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  • [–] 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (11 children)

    I'm so happy that I went for local hosting at home since 2008. I started with game servers.

    Eventually hosting everything from git server to file storage. From todo list to my homepage. From my blog to voip server. From plantuml server to mbin. From Mastodon to my own search engine. From dashboarding to block chain explorer.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    How are you combatting the web crawlers / AI shitfest?

    My small repos were getting smashed for a while. Was using cloudflare tunnels, have had to put up some barriers via cloudflare to curb the traffic. Probably will investigate some wifu defence but it's just another thing to do.

    Last 30 days images below.

    My git isnt anything special, just mirrored from my Codeburg.

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 child)

    I block huge data-center cidr ranges. Whole cidr yes. Not a single ip. But tens of thousands, most like more in the millions of IPs by now.

    Then I also have rate limits installed. So it block users when a threshold is reached in Angie/Nginx via fail2ban.

    Finally, depending on your software. I know that Forgejo and gitea can block access or limit access for non-registered/logged-out users. So visitors can only view the repos and some files. But maybe not scrape all the git commit hashes etc.

    The latter I would call server hardening.

    But it first starts with decent logging and displaying the data. Easy to drill down or filter. This is needed to identify the source /sources of the bad actors.

    These are the basics. Even before I consider cloudflare or Anubis.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago

    Interesting on forgejo I'll investigate as that's the container I use.

    Cloudflare was easy enough as I already use cloudflare tunnels to expose some internet facing services I run. But reducing the reliance on providers is something that I want to achieve.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)
  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 child)

    Back in the days you were able to host your own game server like Cod or bf2 and many many other fps games. Like soldier of fortune and more. Allowing you to be the host, but rather than also being a player a game server is a headless server that hosts a game, so people can join the server (24/7). Often by using the public IP address.

    The mear fact I need to explain what this is makes me really sad. Nothing personal to you but in general sad. Since those game servers hosted by dedicated people across the world make gaming so much more fun. More caring and more decentralized. This also means that the multiplayer gameplay can't never die.

    Today I guess there is no server executable being shared. Everything is fully in the hands of the game studio/publisher. Hence running a game server makes it possible to keep multiplayer working. This is also exactly the case. There area still Cod4, counter strike, bf2, crysis, halo 1, sof double helix and may of those old games alive. No stupid single point of control.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Any good guides for self-hosting git?

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  • [–] 10 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    My instance runs on a dedicated server at hetzner, from their server auction. My price only increased like 3%, which is honestly lower than inflation given how many years we've been at that price point. So I'm completely fine with it. I've not heard of these enormous price hikes before.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago

    Pretty much the same here. I have an old AX41-NVMe for applications (including mail server, mastodon and lemmy) and an even older one from the server auction for files (running Nextcloud with their storage boxes as the backend seems pretty fiddly). Both have increased around 3% so I'm fine.

    They did send out emails with the new pricing a couple of months ago and I saw that some newer servers and especially cloud stuff get massively expensive, though.

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  • [–] 9 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    I host on my own hardware. Hopefully said hardware will continue to last for a long time.

    This also calls for more optimisation from the developers, meaning less use of resources on the hardware.

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago

    I have one of their auctioned servers, so the price increase was just three percent. Since the auctioned servers are all legacy hardware, I don't expect any sharp price hikes in these.

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    Several admins had moved away from Hetzner because of some of their policies, so they impact may be smaller than expected

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago

    The prices for my servers basically increased by 30% I thought about consolidating my 3 VPSes in one big VPS for all 3 instances, but I have not gotten around to it, and I am not sure if I will actually go through with it...

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago*

    i moved my mbin instance from one of the more expensive options, amazon, to hetzner coming up on almost a year ago now.

    they have some used, dedicated servers that you can get diirt cheap. when they raised all the prices mine went up maybe 3%. and thats after more than halving my monthly cost by moving there in the first place. no big deal.

    its clearly their cloudy hardware (scaling) used for ai nonsense that they are pushing rates up on, for those obvious reasons. they dont give a shit who pays and theres lots of stupidly deep ai pockets at the moment

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  • [–] 9 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    I’m running my server on my own hardware, so all of my sevices will be fine

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago

    Fucked me. Their explanation was super reasonable, but I'm still hosed.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago

    They've hugely increased the prices for the higher priced virtual servers. Dedicated server prices have also gone up but not anywhere near as much. I've had a lower-end auction dedi for several years and it's a few bucks more per month now than when I got it way before the shortages. In fact after I got it, prices of comparable servers dropped by quite a lot, though I didn't bother migrating.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago

    I switched from Hetzner to Netcup last year and took the yearly deal just before they increased prices as well, so I'm safe until 2026-12-09. After that, I'll have to figure out what to switch to, if anything at all.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    I think it was only newly purchased servers.

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