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[–] 5 points 5 months ago (1 child)

I mean, I guess if the world falls to fascism they would probably ban alcohol.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    I drink just as frequently as I used to but now it's more wine with dinner or a bottle of wine on a Friday night. Compare that to downing cheap hard liquor after taking like 10 mg of Xanax. I've naturally slowed down over the years. Sometimes I wonder if I'll actually be totally sober one day which is a crazy thought to me. If the trend continues it may eventually happen though.

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  • [–] 21 points 5 months ago (2 children)
  • [–] 15 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    already did here. the drunks cant pay the inflated prices, and pubs are goin bankrupt in the countryside.

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  • [–] 28 points 5 months ago (12 children)

    As others have mentioned, price is becoming an issue. But also, more legalized weed is hurting alcohol as well.

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  • [–] 24 points 5 months ago (10 children)

    Yup why drink and feel shitty later when you can get high and feel fine when it wears off.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    I totally agree with this assessment, but being high and being tipsy/drunk are also very different beasts.

    I wouldn’t smoke if I’m trying to gain a bit more social courage lmao

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Depends on the strain and how much you're smoking imo. For me, just a little high helps with socializing. But also depends on what kind of people I'm around

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    And for me (just to illustrate individual difference, do what works for you my friend), over time the dosage window that's pro-social gets narrower and narrower, to the eventual point that a one-hitter induces muteness that's only overcome if alcohol's added to the equation. Switching up strains helps for a bit, but eventually ends up the same way.

    Actually find I'm way better at socialization when no weed is involved at all these days. Do wonder how much of my social issues around weed are chemical v. behavioural - seems to make sense that if most of your smoking time is spent zoning out to the TV, or even just quietly locked in doing chores, that behaviour might carry over in other settings. But idk.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago

    weed helped me get over anxiety because I would just blame the anxiety on the weed. Id tell myself nobody can see the anxiety swirrling in my head, its just the pot running away with my thoughts, so I just started ignoring it when I felt it. Now weed rarely gets me anxietal. Big truth in "depends on who Im around" though. Thats true for me too, time and a place, like anything.

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  • [–] 11 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    I never understand why people say this. I always feel like shit the day after getting high. I’m tired, cranky, irritable or have that weird anxious feeling like something bad might happen (that I never otherwise have).

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Okay now try drinking 6 pints and rethink your comment

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    I mean, I was at a point where that was no problem, drink six beers and go for a run in the morning. You get used to it. I think it'll affect everyone differently. There's this misconception that weed is for everyone, and it's unfortunately not, but we all want something to help with the escape from reality.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago*

    Thats what alcohol does to me.

    Weed doesnt do anything to me the next day. Smoked a fat bone last night before bed, this morning, im fine, chillen with the birds n bunnies having coffee.

    Alcohol the next day, Id have a headache at least, id have woken dire of thirst, and id probsbly, at least, be slow af this morning.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    I get that way with high potency flower, concentrates, or high potency edibles taken too late at night.

    It usually wears off by 11AM, or whenever I've had my coffee. Coffee knocks the cobwebs off, as I say.

    But, typically, I don't get this, but could also be due to my tolerance being high enough that I can use it to treat anxiety and PTSD, while not affecting my day to day activities.

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  • [–] 24 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    It was only a matter of time before the world heard I quit drinking. Sorry everyone working on the booze industry.

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  • [–] 10 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Ive gone from daily beers after work to only weekends and now I drink maybe once a month.

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  • [–] 10 points 5 months ago

    No shit, have you seen the price of that stuff lately? Who the hell can afford to be a heavy drinker in this economy?

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago

    Pfft, wait until millennials are in nursing homes with no responsibilities and we will get those numbers through the roof. Us old girls will be single handedly propping up the cheap sweet rosé industry.

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago

    I am no teetotaler by any stretch of the imagination, I have a home bar that is better-stocked than most actual bars.

    I've definitely been drinking less this year that I have in previous years.

    Drinking is, for me, a social activity. I don't drink by myself, I need friends to be drinking with for it to be a good time.

    Everyone's schedule sucks these days, we're all too busy and broke to go out to bars and such, and I barely have time to just straighten my house up for company to have people over to enjoy the booze I already have if their schedules manage wo line up with mine.

    And even if by some miracle, all that lines up, its harder to get myself into a drinking mood. I have what I think is a pretty healthy relationship with alcohol, I'm not drinking to drown my sorrows, I do it to enhance an already good time. If I'm stressed or anxious or pissed off or whatever, I'm don't and don't won't to drink, and with the world the way it is I've pretty much been at least a little pizzed off for most of the last decade or so.

    And booze is expensive and so is everything else now, I'm having to choose between things I used to enjoy and things I just need to survive more than I used to.

    And even if I find the wiggle room in the budget, I'm feeling like I need to be extra critical about where my money is going. If I buy, let's say a bottle of Kentucky bourbon, that means that somewhere along the line the state of Kentucky is probably getting a cut of my booze money from taxes and frankly I don't particulaly think KY deserves my money. If I gut a bottle of Canadian rye, what even is the current state of tarrifs? Is it worth forking over a bit of my money to the feds in exchange for some Alberta Premium? (or for that matter, giving money to Alberta, they have some idiots there too)

    And I have a good handful of friends who don't drink, some never started, some have stopped for various reasons (like all of the above,) so with them I'm usually not going to be drinking either.

    Its just a bad time to be drinking.

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  • [–] 9 points 5 months ago (7 children)

    Considering how expensive it's getting, kinda relatable and one of the biggest reasons why i almost quite drinking all together. Have to find cheaper addictions to replace it.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (6 children)

    No kidding! I used to get the hard mtn dews, they were 12 cans for $10. Just the other day at Meijer, $24.99. I don't really drink other than the occasional good drink. That or the Monster, only bc surprisingly both are caffeine free-which is why I can drink them.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Cant recall what the price was when i significantly reduced the amount i drink. That was nearly 5-6 years ago, just that thanks to alcohol tolerance increasing rapidly showed a rather bad trend. By the end if was around a six pack and couple of shots of vodka every evening to get the buzz going.

    Now i do drink only a handful of times a year during some events and when that alcohol is paid for by someone else.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (2 children)

    Meijer still has good prices last I checked, 12 to 14 IPA's for 18 dollars, or like 20 for 30 pbr cans. Same as last year and the year before.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    I'm not a beer drinker anymore, usually hard liquor, but the dew or monster I can't normally have from a caffeine sensitivity. Plus, not as filling

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    Ah, idk about liquor prices, it's price controlled in my state, or at least was it seems like some stores are charging a lot more now idk if they relaxed it.

    But traveling to other states I saw liquor go for 2x what it does here.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago* (2 children)

    That’s great news. I wonder how that’ll impact dv numbers. I do hope that people will migrate to healthier alternatives instead of harder drugs.

    E: it’s my lemmy bday. 3 years. Wow. How time flys.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago

    It already is. So many of my favorite bars are closing...

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    And where are the disadvantages?

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago

    I agree there are few advantages to alcohol.

    But for some regions in Europe it means traditions older than the Roman empire, related to wine growing, can disappear. On steep sunny rocky slopes where little else will grow well, and it's often really deeply embedded in almost everything in such a region: restaurants, tourism, landscape... 80% inhabitants are somehow linked to the winery. Then it's not anonymous capitalist sounding "industry" but just some guy in a small village whose father's father's father ... once started an Inn with winegrowing on the side and when all 4 of such businesses in a village go bankrupt the entire village can become an abandoned wasteland in just a few years.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    It’s so weird - looking back on so many weekends, thinking “huh, I didn’t have a beer or anything “.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    Global alcohol consumption is set to drop over the next ‌decade, despite population growth and rising demand in India, which is set to become the world's biggest drinks market after China, according to market research firm IWSR.

    It's gonna be wild when tolerance movements have international support...

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    And this is all despite India having dry states….

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (2 children)

    I didn't know that. Why exactly, who was behind their dry states?

    I have read about their illegal palm liquor they make, often wrong poisoning whole groups of people like at weddings.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    This past winter I was bored and realized it would be way too easy to develop a drinking problem. My solution to keep myself occupied was to instead return to homebrewing beer & cider. I drink a 22oz bottle once a week on weekends now that winter is over.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    I too have cut my drinking down to weekends only and even then, just light beer.

    Nov 11 is the only exception where I will have a bottle of whisky.

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    [–] 6 points 5 months ago

    I'm getting old, can't keep knocking them back like I used to.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    It’s a stupid drug anyway. Good riddance.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    It's an unfortunate side product of techniques that make some of the most complex flavours and tastes ever. Alc free is improving all the time, so we'll potentially reduce the mass drinking consequences.

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