Burner phones aren't just for drug dealers anymore. Every shady website that wants a phone number gets my burner number. I haven't gotten a single spam call in years.

This is just going to mean more phone theft and phone sales going underground. This hurts regular privacy conscious people and changes nothing for criminals.

The FCC is proposing the data collection partly as a way to combat scammers

Lol, that'll never happen, it's just part of the domestic surveillance network.

How about just start with shutting down phone number spoofing. Thanks.

Well that should make it easy to identify and shut down/block the call spam farms.

What's that? They don't give a flying fuck about it? Huh, neat.

"Kill burner phones" makes it sound like the only people who don't want to sign up for their phone plan using their id are criminals

Oh my, another dystopian fucking thing happening. And its only the 8000th one this week!

Control vehicle operability and thus mobility.
Control use of electronic devices, and thus It's empowerment.
Observe all behavior, external and internal, to know and predict behavior.
Remove privacy and anonymity, to target individuals.
Track relationships, to know all associations and idea propagation.
View all 3d printed designs, to steal concepts and monitor use.
Eliminate wealth and ownership, to disempower the masses.

All of this is happening right now. What kind of society does this sound like?

With all of the other privacy related crackdowns that have been popular recently, I just assumed that the government already figured out an easy way to identify burner phone users. It's surprising that it took them this long if that's not the case.

Sounds like a ridiculous crackdown on privacy that will do abso-fucking-lutely nothing to actually stop spammers, grifters, or other criminals.

I am seriously ready to ditch my phone all together and just have a land line.

I am required to use the phone my employer provides me and on my days off it is off too and in my desk.

Anyone feel like all this surveillance is leading up to something?

Seems like Google Voice plus public wifi would still allow one to make calls/text without any id associated with it.

Including government contracts right? ICE will put a ID on file for each device right? Right?

They did this in Hong Kong already. Everyone still gets spam. People who make a living off of this will find a way.

"We never thought that would happen here."

When will they learn lmao.

and physical address

Can homeless people not get phones under this proposal? Not that they give a shit about homeless people, but it is a valid concern.

If they do this I'm going to go VoIP only it'll be a pain. It's so absurd the oligarchy corpos are pushing for as many business to collect all the user ID photos they can. With all the data leaks that happen it's only going to be a matter of time before stealing someones ID is as easy as stealing anyones ssn. Things will be less secure not more

We never thought that would happen here.

I keep hearing this from many people who are having the day they voted for.

Suddenly voip services will be the new hotness.

They will require you to provide an alternate phone number in order to get a cellular service? So you can't get a phone number unless you already have a phone number?

At least jmp.chat still has Canadian numbers

How many crimes were committed with burner phones?

It looks like a conspiracy theorist site, and the article comes across as, but both are legit.

Probably not actually impossible, just requiring identity theft so only available to criminals

so fucking sick of this fascist gov

A real criminal would have a router with a programmable imei

Well can we get all companies IDs so that we know who's calling? Not that it matters, I already disabled that app. I don't need an app that allows just anyone from any country to call me and say they need crypto.

Ahhh yes, the telcos, all of whom have lost all their customer information many times over with no real consequences, but those same people have had their credit ruined. This cant go wrong letting them have copies of peoples IDs which now will have their signature on record so that convincing IDs can be made from.

Would Voice over IP services be the solution to this? Or do those require ID too?

Think of the children!