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[–] 187 points 5 months ago (5 children)

It was worth it for him, to get shot, so that we can own guns. I'm just happy he's happy

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  • [–] 85 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    And no one is happier than his wife.

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  • [–] 82 points 5 months ago (3 children)
  • [–] 109 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    Under a giant banner that read "Prove me wrong". Sometimes the stars align and deliver cosmic irony that no writer can compete with.

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  • [–] 90 points 5 months ago (4 children)
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    [–] 37 points 5 months ago

    I was in a doctor's office waiting room when it happened and I'm not the slightest bit ashamed to say that I felt pure elation. Unfiltered joy.

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  • [–] 16 points 5 months ago (4 children)
  • [–] 10 points 5 months ago

    a mormon kid that the right, and erika kirk refuses to BLAME at all, because it ruins their narrative that its a "leftist that shot him".

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  • [–] 15 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Do we all forget that they were going to lynch anyone who said anything disagreeable on social media? They made a tracking site and everything.

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  • [–] 13 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    I won't forget the 24 hours after when all I saw were people celebrating his murder and people literally trying to convince Republicans to start murdering Democrats. Then they realized they could get people fired for showing the wrong emotion and all the murder talk simmered down.

    So people got fired for being happy a prick died. But to my knowledge, nobody was fired for trying to get people to commit murder.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (1 child)

    So people got fired for being happy a prick died. But to my knowledge, nobody was fired for trying to get people to commit murder.

    In Trump's America, they should be glad ICE didn't track them down, break into their home at night and just shoot them while asleep in their beds.

    This type of thing hasn't been reported anywhere, but given they're willing to murder peaceful citizens with impunity in full view of the public I'm willing to speculate the shit going on we don't know about is SO much worse.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago

    So, this is terrifying to think about. Because honestly, I think they're too incompetent to keep stuff hidden. And he's generally not interested in secret stuff. He wants to be a loud dictator where people don't question him, rather than getting away with something he shouldn't do. In his mind, there's nothing he shouldn't do.

    But we know that if something happens off camera, people generally don't care. So what happens when the next person takes advantage of that apathy.

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago

    It's so tragic that he made himself an absolute piece of shit who got what he deserved. This and Luigi are two wonderful examples of people on the internet responding enthusiastically to events that make them feel good for quite obvious reasons.

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  • [–] 31 points 5 months ago (16 children)

    Wasn't the "bigger" argument that it was trans people? And then there was news about the shooter allegedly having a trans partner (no idea if it was ever confirmed or not).

    Almost makes it better honestly

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  • [–] 93 points 5 months ago* (13 children)

    He was asked what portion of gun crimes were by trans people, and he retorted with "are we counting gang violence?"

    So he was losing an argument about trans people and was trying to shift to blaming black people.

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  • [–] 81 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Charlie died the way he lived. Spewing bullshit.

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  • [–] 16 points 5 months ago (6 children)

    Equating gang violence with black people is racist as shit.

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  • [–] 37 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    Admittedly that dog whistle was an assumption I made. He didn't finish his thought.

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  • [+] -6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

    The point he was making is that the vast majority of violence in America takes place in gang warfare, and if you're not in a gang, it is far less of a personal concern than it might otherwise appear. I know this because it's a common one that these kind of people make all the time.

    It's a bad point because it basically implies that gang violence doesn't matter.

    E: downvotes for explanation, I guess?

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  • [–] 9 points 5 months ago

    Indeed. It's a common dogwhistle the conservative talking heads have entrenched in modern discourse. Obviously, white gangs exist, but the act of mentioning gang violence while talking to a predominantly young, white crowd will water the seed in their mind that the other is the problem.

    Take a look at any Fox News segment that covers gang violence. Guarantee any mugshots or arrest videos shown during such segments do not show ANY white detainees. It's deliberate. If they ever show a white person arrested, they will absolutely frame the segment differently, and won't utter that phrase.

    Since the "war on drugs" designed to target minorities is less effective now, they branched out to calling it the war on gang violence.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Naw are you serious? Kirk was asked how many mass shootings occurred in the last 10 years and he responded briefly with counting or not counting gang violence bs.

    Regardless, what in the world made you feel the need to gaslight us about it being a trans specific question that preceded the shooting. Also total bullshit on your part.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    In the run up to that question they were discussing trans mass shooters, then the questionnaire pivoted to mass shootings in general (to show that trans shooters are a tiny tiny minority) which Kirk then tried deflecting by asking about gang or non-gang related shootings.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    Theoretically I'm sure some trans people are in gangs, especially given how v coding probably heavily pressures trans prisoners into prison gangs, but as someone who's known a ton of trans people I feel we're disproportionately likely not to be perpetrating gang violence all else being equal

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  • [–] 19 points 5 months ago

    "counting or not counting gang violence" *proceeds to lean left

    I mean I'm sure he'd be fine with that collateral damage but his whole "gang violence negates white mass shooters" was an argument he repeated often.

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  • [–] 12 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    His last words were "including or not including gang violence"?

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  • [+] 6 points 5 months ago (2 children)
  • TThis guy said compassion was a weakness.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago

    Thus far, the comments are spot on. I highly doubt the US justice system will find out who really pulled the trigger or pressed the button detonating his microphone? Anyway, Kirk was a complete racist POS.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (4 children)
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    Live Charlie Kirk reaction:

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  • It certainly won't be any worse for him.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (20 children)

    Was there any truth in the exploding mic theory?

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Wait, this one is new to me, what's the exploding mic theory?

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Supposedly gun experts don't think the rifle used matches the shot by any means. I've heard it from a few places as an egregious discrepancy, and the theory ultimately points to everyone's favorite country which he was beginning to turn against.

    Nothing surprises me anymore in this fucked up timeline so tbh I didn't research it myself

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  • [+] -11 points 5 months ago (15 children)

    Yes.
    Not officially, of course.

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago (12 children)

    Please direct me to resources. I fail to comprehend how an exploding lapel mic can cause a bullet-shaped perforation in one’s neck.

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  • [+] -11 points 5 months ago (11 children)

    Whoa you know the shape of the perforation?!
    You know more than me, then.
    You tell us.

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  • [–] 9 points 5 months ago (10 children)

    I’m asking in earnest. The credibility of your argument depends on your provision of evidence!

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  • [+] -18 points 5 months ago (9 children)

    Learn to use Google, bud. The world doesn't work for you.

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago (7 children)

    You’re no fun, go back to Reddit chum!

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  • [+] -8 points 5 months ago (6 children)

    Want your research done for you, AND think you decide where people can post?
    😆
    I didn't you were the big boss here, top-dog.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    You're the one saying his lapel mic exploded with no evidence, why should we do your work of backing up your claims? There's all kinds of fake bullshit you can find if you look, I would think if you were confident about it you would share what made you believe such a thing.

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  • [+] -9 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    I answered the question.
    No evidence was requested.
    Go look it up if you need more.
    Very easy to do these days.

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    You were asked for evidence though. And it's not easy to look up some fake bullshit in a sea of fake bullshit.

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  • [–] -1 points 5 months ago* (2 children)

    Everybody already knows, bud.
    The only people left on the entire internet who aren't aware and post questions, or are in-fact aware and post questions like this are:
    Feds.
    Fed bots.
    IDF.
    IDF bots.
    Fuckwits.
    Morons.
    People who don't pay attention.
    Peeps with IQ under 100.
    Maga (see previous).
    Those that genuinely don't know but also don't know how web search works and feel entitled that someone else has to explain it to them. Also known as, "princesses".
    That's it. There is no one else outside these categories. Full stop.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (1 child)

    I don't understand the title.

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  • [–] -2 points 5 months ago* (4 children)

    Not to take away from the hilarity of that meme but the bullet in his neck didn't match the gun they said was the shooters. Somebody else killed him...

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (2 children)

    Not an expert, but isn't most of that "matching the bullet to the gun" shit pseudoscientific nonsense?

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    Kinda yes, kinda no. At the very least a caliber can be determined with some accuracy (like, you can tell it's at least a .30 cal bullet but may not know if that came from a 300blk or .308 since they use the same bullet with different casings/powder charges, then however you may be able to deduce further based on the wound patterns but I'm not an expert really.

    Matching the bullet to the specific gun down to the serial number is a bit of nonsense though, to some degree the striations may match up like on TV but that'd be able to be hidden by taking a wire brush down the barrel or just shooting a bunch more rounds through it. That said, idk, maybe since the story is "one bullet fired, rifle found in woods, next bullet was ballistics testing," maybe it's more credible?

    In any case, there's more questions than just the bullet "matching" (whatever that would mean in this context, be it striations or caliber), supposedly he climbed on the roof, assembled the rifle, took his shot, and then the video footage of him running across the roof. But in that footage he has no rifle, he runs, tosses his bag, follows it down, and keeps running. Where did the rifle go? Did he take it back down and stash it in the ~6sec it took between the shot and him moving? Doubtful. And supposedly he left his screwdriver up there, how then is it taken down in the bag in the footage then found assembled in a box in the woods if the screwdriver he needed to use for that was still on the roof? And supposedly it was a 30-06 rifle, a round powerful enough to go through an elk at 2x+ the (iirc) ~150yd distance, and Charlie caught it in one of the softest parts in the human body "because he's superman actually." Fucking ok, for sure, you betcha.

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