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[–] 9 points 5 months ago

Is she fat and 80 years old? Otherwise it's obviously a bad politician.

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  • [–] 13 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Stop excusing democrat failures as sexism.

    Your candidates, (which I voted for so fuck all the way off,) are unelectable. It's not about sex it's about they are unpopular corporate sell outs and we all know it.

    We knew they couldn't win, and nominated (or annointed as Kamala's case is,) them anyway.

    WTF is wrong with you? That you blame voters and not the "opposition party" at this point.

    Wake the fuck up!

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  • [–] 13 points 5 months ago

    Dems have picked bad candidates for 30+ years. Further evidence of this, is they act like Obama was some miracle... instead of just a DECENT candidate. Remember also he 'stole' the election from Hillary in 2008... because the DNC had already decided back then she was 'their candidate'. And how nasty people got about it... holy crap the DNC HATED Obama, but the people liked him, and he kicked Hillary's ass in the primaries, and the media and the DNC tried super hard to stop him

    They just don't want to win. They want to admonish the american public how stupid they are for not voting Democratic, rather than... try and appeal to them.

    And it's funny, when a Dem candidate does appeal to people and isn't a self-important fool... they win.

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

    People would despise that President and they would be historically unpopular and judges would by and large stymie their illegal actions, at least domestically?

    Might even be impeached once. Possibly twice.

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  • [–] 23 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    America would never have woman president, even the left was like “we want the old white man gone!”

    gets an educated black woman

    “Eeew not like that”

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago

    To be fair, Biden saying he was a transitional president, running, dropping out, then Kamala getting the nomination without a primary was not a winning strategy for anyone involved, much less a woman specifically.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago

    You're missing the thing about organising an insurrection and being a pedophile, but we get the picture

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Hey I read trampolines were originally just called olines until Melania jumped on one.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (7 children)

    Imagine thinking Kamala would have pushed back against Israel's dictats. The Gaza genocide didn't suddenly get worse when Trump took office, and the war on Iran was always the plan. If anything, Trump's handling of it is preferable because of how much he sucks at it, categorically, from the execution to the optics.

    Don't get me wrong, I voted for Harriss and Orange Man must be fought on every front, but Kamala would have most of the same problems, without the shiny statue ballroom bullshit to distract her. We The People can do better.

    https://www.boughtbyzionism.org/vpharriscomplicit

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago

    I like to imagine a world where we Saddam'ed Netanyahu, then decided to hang up the world police thing and relinquish every military base on foreign land. It's never gonna happen, but it's fun to think about

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  • [–] 11 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    WHATTABOUT THIS OTHER THING THAT DIDNT HAPPEN?

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  • [–] 0 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Oh, so four years of bending-over backwards for Israel while she was in office just "didn't happen"?

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

    My dude I need to be clear with you:

    She was never the president, I don’t know how her admin would have handled Israel’s genocide but I can guess, meanwhile we can see exactly what Trump is doing.

    So while you’re out here whattabouting to distract … everyone can see through you.

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  • [–] -1 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    She was at least as hard-line as Biden and had the perfect opportunity to distance herself from Israel or even acknowlege the Palestinian plight. Instead she doubled down.

    Idk you, does it really get more transparent than trying to hand-waive away four years as the Vice President everyone looked-to when Biden's mind started to go?

    You keep using these words at me like I'm the one with an agenda supporting genocide. Fuck off.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    Absolute outrage would ensue.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    Is that why Trump is phishing for scandals with the fighting ring thing?

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  • [+] -7 points 5 months ago (22 children)

    If Kamala had been a man, he'd be president right now.

    Only reason why she lost (Besides tankies hating anyone who doesn't promise the sky)

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  • [–] 17 points 5 months ago (20 children)

    doesn't promise the sky

    because "hey can you, like, not genocide people?" is too much to ask for, apparently

    tankies

    i believe you severely overestimate the influence some annoying internet communists have on politics

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  • [–] -4 points 5 months ago (19 children)

    America is not breaking up with Israel.That's something we're gonna have to make peace with

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  • [–] 14 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (9 children)

    If you think the anti-genocide bloc swung the election then you either need to concede to their demands or accept your genocidal candidates will never win again.

    "The voters need to get over it and vote for me" is the dumbest possible electoral strategy. Unless of course your support for israel is worth putting ahead of any other policy.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (6 children)

    "The voters need to get over it and vote for me." is exactly the attitude to have when the other guy is Donald Trump and he's holding minorities hostage

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (5 children)

    So you think it was more important to support israel's genocide than to win the election. interesting.

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  • [–] -2 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Nobody really gives a fuck about Israel or Palestine. Those two groups of people, with vatious names, have basically been fighting over their stupid holy land for all time.

    Not to mention, if both candidates are supporting Israeli genocide, then at least pick the one that isn't also a colossally unqualified hate monger. Because at the end of the day, again, some stupid endless holy war country doesn't matter, next to home, and everywhere else in the world's safety.

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  • [–] -1 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    This.

    I don't know why Tankies thought a temper tantrum was more important than minorities. Because it's not like Trump is an ally of Palestine.

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  • [–] 0 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Trump was actively against Palestine. The worst for Harris was she was wishy washy about it and not really "supporting" or condemning any side.

    Because, surprise, its a complex issue, that has been going on for a while.

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  • [–] -3 points 5 months ago

    No much the opposite.

    Both candidates were Pro-Israel. I just wanted the one that wasn't after trans people.

    Palestine is already doomed. It is best to help the people who can still be helped before Trump has us put in camps.

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  • [–] 10 points 5 months ago (7 children)

    From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free. That's something we're gonna have to make peace with

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  • [+] -6 points 5 months ago (6 children)

    I hate Israel too, but America isn't going to stop sucking up to them no matter what you do. It's impossible. Saving Palestine is a lost cause, the best you can do is save those who can still be saved.

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    That's fatalism. Instead of saying "It can't be done", you should be asking "How can it be done?"

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  • [–] -3 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    No I'm being realistic. Any politician who suggests Israel is anything less than perfect is labeled an anti-semite and black listed from Washington.

    Israel owns this country and there's nothing we can do about it.

    I really wish we could disband AIPAC and stand up and send a message saying "No it's not anti-semetic to be against child murder."

    But we live in a climate where even suggesting Israel isn't a utopia rightfully ruled by the best of the best makes you a Neo Nazi. You'd have better luck getting Texas to abolish Capital Punishment or Kansas to give transpeople their IDs back... which are both goals we should focus on because unlike challenging Israel they are possible.

    I am not an apologist for Israel. I fucking hate them and see Nethanyu as the Modern Day Hitler... but there's nothing we can do about them.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Sounds like you're just saying "Forget the Palestinians they're fucked. Think about meeeeee."

    Do I have that right?

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  • [–] -1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

    If you were a paramedic and you ran into two people one of them was literally dead and the other was bleeding out... naturally, you would try to save the latter person.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago (1 child)
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    Wow what?

    There was nothing to gain by refusing to vote for Kamala, the other option was Trump who thinks muslims should "wear special IDs". Palestine was fucked either way.

    If not voting for Kamala made an Anti-Israel politician ascend from the heavens and replace her on the ticket I'd understand, but that's not how life works.

    I'm just being an adult. No you can't have ice cream for dinner, eat your damn peas or go hungry.

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  • [+] -9 points 5 months ago (14 children)

    Why would you think Kamala wouldn't have started a war with Iran, or would/could have run it significantly better. (different perhaps, but better?) We don't know of course.

    Remember Trump's first term he was the only president in memory to not send troops for something. If war was your only consideration you could be justified in thinking Trump's proven track record made him the best choice in 2024. We of course know how that turned out, which is a lesson few will learn for next time they put their trust in a president.

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago (6 children)

    Why would anyone have started a war with Iran?

    • Negotiations were in place for nuclear disarmament, that nobody was projecting failure on.
    • Hormuz was always a known entity to the intelligence communities.
    • Israel has long needed to be told to get back in its box.
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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Israel has long needed to be told to get back in its box.

    And...? That would've changed with Harris how?

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago

    Syria fell, Hezbollah in Lebanon was weakened. This openned air corridor to Iran from Israel. Biden was very supportive to Israel during Gaza. Its hard to imagine Iran operation would not get some support as well. Messaging would probably be about human/women rights so it would be easier for the publicc to swallow.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    Iran was already fighting a proxy war with Israel. We can debate the best response, but don't claim the war is new. I too opposed this action because bad as Iran is, war is still evil.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    @bluGill @FoxtrotDeltaTango Also I don't know where you get your news, but might want to try something different. Trump didn't send troops anywhere? Yemen, Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Syria, etc... He also broke his promise to end Afghanistan despite surrendering to the Taliban. You would have to be a special kind of stupid to believe anything that guys says or that he wasn't going to start any wars.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago

    Yeah, okay. Among the candidates in 2024 who were formerly a president, he was the least warlike! However, this is counter-balanced by the fact that, among the candidates in 2024 were formerly a president, he was also the most warlike!

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    I personally don't believe Kamala would have started a war with Iran as the intelligence community wouldn't have recommended it. Were a war started, at the very least it would have included the support of allies.

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  • [–] -2 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    You can replace woman here with just about anything but "white man"

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