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[–] 58 points 5 months ago

Well, this is the country which had demonstrations defending their right to rape those of "vermin" etnicities and have even celebrated some such rapists in national television.

Israeli spy services were also deeply involved with Epstein.

Looks a lot like Israel is a country with a broad culture of rape.

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  • [–] 130 points 5 months ago (36 children)

    Raping Children is TERRIBLE! Wait ISRAEL is doing it? Your ANTI SEMETIC if you HATE Raping Children!

    -The BBC!

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  • [–] 60 points 5 months ago* (35 children)

    Far more than the BBC, including many here on lemmy. Fucking swine (them, not you).

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  • [–] 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (33 children)

    We're talking about you @PugJesus@lemmy.world

    Also I think it's hilarious I had to look up how to tag people on Lemmy and the post I come across is two years ago and they're asking how to tag users and mention Pug as an example.

    EDIT: 13 downvotes doesn't seem suspicious at all. /s

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  • [–] 11 points 5 months ago (18 children)
  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago* (17 children)

    He's a mod who really doesn't like it when people talk about Democratic politicians who support Israel's genocide. Also when you talk about him your comment will get a lot more attention than what you'd expect from organic traffic. I have my suspicions he's got funding.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (14 children)

    Have you considered he may be a relatively well-known figure in this space, thus generating additional interest that a less-prolific user may not? Due to the rarity of tagging a user in the first place you bring further attention when tagging anyone in any comment regardless of their popularity.

    When that tag involves accusations of pedophile apologia or Zionist-washing without providing evidence it will receive negative attention regardless of the user's popularity.

    Your suspicions regarding paid engagement ignores the rational explanation that he is simply a recognizable name. Those suspicions are further undercut by tagging him and accusing him of reprehensible behavior. You personally have increased engagement with your actions.

    Please, by all means, provide us with evidence that Pug abuses his banhammer. Mod logs aren't hidden. If his actions are scummy or inappropriate for his position then prove it. Regardless of his popularity you would be doing a favor for the entire fediverse in doing so.

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  • [–] -3 points 5 months ago (12 children)

    Please, by all means, provide us with evidence that Pug abuses his banhammer. Mod logs aren’t hidden. If his actions are scummy or inappropriate for his position then prove it. Regardless of his popularity you would be doing a favor for the entire fediverse in doing so.

    I openly admit to being irritable, impatient, and not really suited for modding duties. At the same time, my bans are overwhelmingly for issues of ideology, not tone, and I generally try to find context for the user's statements before heading in with a ban. If someone calls me a fuckwit, that's whatever.

    If someone is playing "Bothsides" games when that bullshit is the reason why I'm living in an increasingly fascist state circling the drain, with over a million projected to die from the end of USAID, the unconditional support of Israel's lunatic genocide in Palestine and imperialism in both Syria and Lebanon, my own increasing inability to find insurance after recent changes in Federal medical policy and state assistance for a chronic disease that will kill me if left untreated (not to mention my mental health issues, which also may kill me untreated), the fact that I've had fucking family members who've been in the country for almost two decades with no trouble ending up being deported under this administration, that we have people being openly murdered in the streets by unaccountable fascist paramilitaries for the crime of protesting, and every attempt made to enable and assist Russia's imperialist and genocidal project in Ukraine...

    ... well, they can enjoy their ban.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (11 children)

    Maybe if you went after dipshits who vote for people like Biden, Cuomo and Clinton in Democratic primaries you wouldn't have to hear about what pieces of shit Democratic politicians are. 🤷‍♂️

    At the end of the day all you're doing is defending genocide supporters.

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  • [–] -1 points 5 months ago (10 children)

    Maybe if you went after dipshits who vote for people like Biden, Cuomo and Clinton in Democratic primaries you wouldn’t have to hear about what pieces of shit Democratic politicians are. 🤷‍♂️

    Cute considering that I opposed all three. But that doesn't match your narrative, so of course, you do the only thing your tiny fascist mind can think of, and make shit up. :)

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (9 children)

    You "opposed" them by voting for them. 🤷‍♂️

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  • [–] -1 points 5 months ago (8 children)

    The only one of those three I ever voted for was Biden, in 2020, in the general election, because I'm not a dipshit fascist. I voted Bernie in the 2020 primary.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (7 children)

    Who'd you vote for in the 2016 general?

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  • [–] 0 points 5 months ago* (6 children)

    Made a protest vote. Not proud of it, honestly, but I thought Hillary was going to win handily, and I could afford to voice displeasure with her fuckwit candidacy, especially after the coronal tone that was pushed by the DNC during the 2016 primary.

    I lived in a safe state at the time and it went Dem anyway, but I still have flashbacks to that morning, watching the results come in.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (4 children)

    Harris, because I had the terrible curse of prophecy, and predicted a good 50% of the bullshit we're currently living through should Trump win.

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  • [–] 0 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Lol so like I said, you "opposed" them by voting for them.

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  • [–] -1 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Lol so like I said, you “opposed” them by voting for them.

    This you, buddy?

    Maybe if you went after dipshits who vote for people like Biden, Cuomo and Clinton in Democratic primaries you wouldn’t have to hear about what pieces of shit Democratic politicians are. 🤷‍♂️

    Or did you forget what a primary was?

    Oh, who am I kidding? Fascists don't believe words have meanings.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago* (1 child)

    You're the one who claims you "opposed" them by voting for them in the general election. You're the one using words incorrectly. Not only that, in another comment you're bewildered why it's taken so long for Democratic politicians support of Israel to weaken. You vote for them in the general election and you work to suppress people calling them out for supporting genocide. 🤷‍♂️ You are literally the problem.

    I do go after dipshits who vote for Cuomo, Biden and Clinton in the primaries. Who do you think responds to the very comment you banned me for?

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  • [–] 0 points 5 months ago*

    You’re the one who claims you “opposed” them by voting for them in the general election.

    Feel free to quote me, unless you're making shit up because you don't actually have an argument. :)

    Not only that, in another comment you’re bewildered why it’s taken so long for Democratic politicians support of Israel to weaken.

    Your literacy is remarkably low. I expressed exhausted enthusiasm that Dem voters finally began to change their opinion on Israel in polling, despite there being multiple escalations of the genocide in the past decade-and-a-half alone that didn't move the fucking needle.

    You vote for them in the general election and you work to suppress people calling them out for supporting genocide. 🤷‍♂️ You are literally the problem.

    lmao

    Sorry that you think licking Trump's boots is a preferable alternative to voting for a dreaded shitlib, who literally won the majority of the less conservative third of this fucking country in their primaries in 2016 and 2020.

    I'm sure the Palestinians in the West Bank and Jordanians and Syrians being annexed by Israeli genocidaires are thrilled by your 'principled' stance.

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  • [–] -2 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    He’s a mod who really doesn’t like it when people talk about Democratic politicians who support Israel’s genocide.

    lmao.

    Also when you talk about him your comment will get a lot more attention than what you’d expect from organic traffic. I have my suspicions he’s got funding.

    You caught me.

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  • [–] 11 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    getting banned by zionist trash is an award

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  • [–] -1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

    Are you still salty that calling for genocide isn't allowed in HistoryMemes?

    I gave you numerous fucking opportunities to back off from the lunatic position of "Genocide advocacy is Okay, Actually; if it's against Bad Ethnicity", and you still insisted on it.

    Sorry that you think being against genocide makes me a Zionist?

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  • [–] 12 points 5 months ago (7 children)

    He calls what Israel is doing a genocide, so I'm not sure he fits in that category.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago* (6 children)

    He banned me from his community for calling out Democratic politicians for supporting Israel's genocide soooo 🤷‍♂️

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    Gonna need a link to which comment caused the ban for me to make a proper judgement.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago* (4 children)

    He removed it of course.

    https://lemmy.world/post/47534274/24011623

    My comment was something like "If Democratic politicians could be pressured they wouldn't continue to support Israel's genocide."

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

    I can still see your comment. And if he did ban you, you can link to the modlogs, though I'm not sure exactly how to find it.

    Edit: Saw the modlogs, so he did ban you, but of course no mention of which comment caused that. My assumption is he could simply be Blue MAGA, but not necessarily Zionist.

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  • [–] 0 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Neither, I'm just aware that Dems are the only one of the two parties which have moved away from supporting Israel as of late in response to Dem voters, for the first time in my fucking lifetime, moving away from unconditional support of Israel, and have no patience for "Buh-buh-buh-bothsides" bullshit. I checked the user's comment history before banning for context, which confirmed them as a "Electoralism doesn't matter!" useful idiot for fascist genocidaires.

    But hey, at least they can 'virtue' signal about how great it is to enable the murder of as many minorities as possible.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    Neither, I’m just aware that Dems are the only one of the two parties which have moved away from supporting Israel as of late in response to Dem voters, for the first time in my fucking lifetime

    They didn't listen to voters years ago. Biden told them all to go fuck themselves and you were defending him even then.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    No way PugJesus hasn’t some sort of financial support behind. No one can post the amount of shitty posts like him without an ulterior motive.

    Sorry I’m not that stupid, your strategy is ridiculous like your fake persona. Bad dog 💦🔫

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  • [–] 22 points 5 months ago

    Talking about anything Zionists do is antisemitic.

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  • [–] 18 points 5 months ago

    I’m scared to even click this article :’)

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  • [–] 17 points 5 months ago

    Show me a "religious conservative" and I'll show you someone high on the "Likely Rapes Underage Girls" list.

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  • [–] 34 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    But child sexual abuse is tradition in the Jewish faith: circumcision.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Same with the catholics. (who mostly become ex-catholics). I certainly wouldn't mind having the tip of my dick back.

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  • [–] 10 points 5 months ago

    Catholic faith nowhere demands circumcision. Actually, a lot of discussionin the early church history was about "are Christians also Jews?", which would require circumcision. And the resounding answer was "No".

    This seems to be an American aberration.

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  • [–] 46 points 5 months ago

    Unfortunately, unsurprising. Zionists are filth. I will point out what should be obvious: That there are many Jews who don't support them in any way, shape, or form. But zionists? You can't get a lower form of scum.

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  • [–] 45 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    There is literally no possible bottom to the pit of evil these Zionist revel in to achieve their Jewish state.

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    You ain't wrong, but this is shit done within the settler communities to other Jews, not the Palestinians.

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  • [–] [S] 17 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    But everyone is involved not just settlers

    She said she had received testimonies from several women who alleged that 'doctors, educators, police officers, and past and present members of the Knesset' were involved in the abuse. 

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  • [–] -3 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    The common thread seems to be that the instigators are from the same Haredi faction. The perpetrators are from a broader range of groups (if the allegations are true).

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  • [–] 15 points 5 months ago

    ... shaking Israel's religious-Zionist sector.

    I kinda doubt that, they must be just "slammed" about the whole thing getting out though.

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  • [–] 14 points 5 months ago

    Circumcision is ritualistic child sexual abuse.

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  • [–] 14 points 5 months ago

    What fucking scum.

    'Shaking' the sector my ass they seem all in on this bullshit.

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  • [–] 13 points 5 months ago

    I hope the victims recover...

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  • [–] 12 points 5 months ago* (1 child)

    Was wondering who was going to rise up and challenge the Catholic church for the title of champions of the molesters in the next Holy Wrestle Mania PPV.

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  • [–] 11 points 5 months ago

    the admission is now expected to trigger the reopening of police complaints that were previously closed, as well as a significant expansion of the criminal investigation.

    So, they publicly proclaimed how horrible and evil the reports are, but actually DID nothing.

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  • [–] 11 points 5 months ago (7 children)

    Given that there has been very little evidence for “satanic” child sexual abuse cults despite rumors going back at least half a century, it wouldn’t surprise me if there is some relation. The devil’s in the details, and these reports ring absolutely true personally.

    Please don’t take this as anything against Judaism as a whole, some of my best friends, family, nicest people yada yada. It’s like any powerful religion.

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    Nothing satanic, it's just abuse with some dressed up frills to get the victim to accept their abuse. And Israel is choke full of abusers.

    Even a survey found that the majority didn't think forcing another person into sex is considered rape.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/view-from-jerusalem-with-harriet-sherwood/2011/jan/21/israel-palestinian-territories

    https://www.haaretz.com/2011-01-18/ty-article/study-61-of-men-dont-see-forced-sex-with-acquaintance-as-rape/0000017f-df30-db22-a17f-ffb162e20000

    College Study: 41 Percent of Women Students Don't See Forced Sex With Acquaintance as Rape. 61 percent of the male students polled in a small college survey did not equate forced sex with an acquaintance as rape.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    That’s my point. Maybe there were “satanic” ritualistic abuse cults, maybe not. But it seems increasingly likely there have been Zionist ritualistic abuse cults for a long time. Their pentagram a… hexagram?

    I think these stats are a reflection of just how toxic Israeli culture has become in some areas. It’s a slippery slope from → these types of people are not human to → inhumanity applied to other groups, as we all know. Eventually it is applied on oneself when it becomes so ingrained in the culture

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    I think it's more the case that relatively inward-looking communities (for example, religious cults or factions) enable abuse by being suspicious of outside authority and opposing accountability for their leaders. Instead, they close ranks and try to hide their problems. That may mean solving them themselves, or more often, protecting the perpetrators and laying on the denial.

    It's a depressing fact that child abuse happens everywhere. There's a certain, probably irreducible, percentage of any population who are sick, evil scum who prey on the vulnerable. The only question is whether the problem is confronted or hidden. In that way, Israeli culture is no different than that anywhere else.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    The massive problem with this ritualised csa is that it is deliberately conscripting people who aren’t that way inclined to participate to benefit the depravities of a few and presumably provide blackmail powers. This is vastly different from covering up for rogue individuals in power dynamic, it is deliberately much more damaging to everyone involved, even normalised, and it provides extremely strong obedience. There is a presumption of no possible outside authority in this scenario by those involved, by design. I would hope that this is unusual at this level of seniority within a culture, but I have my doubts.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    And for groups like this it makes perfect sense that many would see reporting it and publicizing it as having a risk of hurting the group as a whole, victim included. You try internal means of dealing with the issue if you can, or you try warning potential victims, or you just try to move on.

    It's one of the reasons it's so bad to associate groups with unrelated crimes and heinous acts.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    I still don't know if I can make a generalization that it's because Israelis are predominantly of a faith and therefore are cultish, and by extension likely to be abusers within the faith. In the end, a majority of Israelis are not religious and don't subscribe to religious doctrine.

    So I agree with your second paragraph:

    I think these stats are a reflection of just how toxic Israeli culture has become in some areas. It’s a slippery slope from → these types of people are not human to → inhumanity applied to other groups, as we all know. Eventually it is applied on oneself when it becomes so ingrained in the culture.

    And because of how sadistic and toxic the culture is, it's even more apparent in the spinoff cults.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    I know that for contemporary Republican politicians, every accusation against their perceived enemies is an admission of something they're doing.

    I didn't know that went all the way back to the Satanic Panic.

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  • [–] 38 points 5 months ago (24 children)

    considering they were the mastermind behind epstein islands/trafficking, its not really surprising they have it in thier own borders, or nearby ME countries.

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  • [–] 29 points 5 months ago (20 children)

    Jeffery Epstein was a Mossad Agent. 'The Finders' cult active during (at least) the 1970s-1990s in the US were a Mossad and CIA group that specialized in trafficking children for various purposes zionists have now admitted to enjoying.

    This is public non-controversial information. Zionism is genocide, zionism is pedophilia. If you are a zionist you think brown people need to die for you to live, and you like to fuck kids.

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  • [–] -2 points 5 months ago (19 children)

    You know what? You're absolutely correct. This is all public, non controversial information. Which is I will share this link so people here can actually read about this movement and see for themselves that you're conspiracy theory nut that's full of shit:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Finders_(movement)#1987_child_abuse_investigation

    First of all, there's literally zero mentions, connections, or even allegations that this weird movement had anything to do with Mossad, Israel, or Zionism. That's literally you making stuff up.

    Second of all, based on the article linked above, there's also zero mentions of CIA involvement anywhere. The closest thing you'll get to that is the cult founder's wife and son used to work for the CIA. His son cut contact with him in 1985 when he started a home inspection business. There's nothing in the article that mentions anything about this movement actually being run by the CIA. Again, the closest thing you'll get to that is this:

    The 1987 investigation received wider attention in 1993, when Henry T. "Skip" Clements, an officer in private-sector consulting and a resident of Stuart, Florida, obtained a copy of a report which stated that the Washington, D.C. police investigation into the Finders had been dropped as a "CIA internal matter." Clements alleged that the Central Intelligence Agency had compelled the Customs Service to cease their 1987 investigation because the commune was used as a front to train agents. Clements' allegations drew the interest of two U.S. representatives, Tom Lewis and Charlie Rose, leading to a Department of Justice investigation.[9][12] The CIA denied any involvement,[6] and CIA spokesman David Christian asserted that the 1993 accusations were a misunderstanding stemming from a CIA training contractor, Future Enterprises Inc. where one Finders member worked as a part-time accountant

    Which doesn't prove anything because the founder and his family lived in DC, and that's where he formed his weird little cult, and as it so happens, government agencies like the CIA are big employers in that city. You're making it sound as if this was a CIA run predecessor to Epstein island, which its not.

    Finally, when you actually look at the alleged activities of this group, they were never even accused, let alone indicted on child trafficking. The only criminal activity this group has mentioned in the article is two members being arrested for misdemeanor child abuse, which in this case was not sexual abuse, but neglect. The Florida's state police as well federal authorities investigated the situation but couldn't find any evidence for criminal activity so the charge were charged and the two men were released.

    Most of the allegations about them being CIA run operation or them being a satanic cult or being an international pedo ring or whatever all comes from the media, which as the sources in the article imply were done to capitalize on the Satanic Panic that was happening in the 80s.

    Now, here's the thing. If you're critical of this group, that's fine. If you're critical of the law enforcement investigations done on this group, that's also fine. If you're skeptical of the CIA, go right ahead. However, what's not fine is when you literally make up shit and try to pass it on as fact. Your claims have no evidence, no sources, no substance, nothing. What I posted here is public information, and it contradicts what you said. Meaning that you're either really ignorant or you're a conspiracy theory nut who's spreading misinformation. Either way, it's unacceptable and you need to do better.

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  • [–] 18 points 5 months ago (6 children)

    All I read there is a "we investigated ourselves and saw no wrongdoing" kind of deal, with the extra steps of collusion between government organizations and judges in their pockets.

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  • [+] -12 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    If you want to criticize tge investigations, that's perfectly fine. I'm merely pointing out how the person I'm replying to is simply lying and making things up despite them insisting that their claims are public knowledge.

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    Honestly the left needs more conspiracy, the right has too long controlled that demographic.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Ain't that right? At least leftist conspiracies could be more creative and entertaining than something as silly as "child molesting pizza parties in a pizza joint basement."

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    I mean they were kind of right about the pizza thing I guess, it's all over the files. It's just not like an actual pizza place...

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    Well, you can't be considered creative if all you do is accuse others of something you are actually doing. One thing is taking inspiration from reality, another is just to take reality as it is an alter what may point towards you.

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  • [–] 15 points 5 months ago

    Nice try. There are connections with the CIA even if they aren't a smoking gun. They protected them and sent agents to train with them as well.

    https://apnews.com/article/4c5cd8141e930159ea3e4f0492a41ade

    Furthermore there is a long history of letting child molesters flee to Isreal and using child rape as blackmail. This includes Epstein.

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/how-jewish-american-pedophiles-hide-from-justice-in-israel/

    https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/jeffrey-epstein-may-have-had-links-to-israeli-leaders-the-rolling-stone-674244

    You can pretend all you want, but all I see is a defender of pedophiles using doubt to sow discord. We know they are molesting children. We know POTUS is in on it. We know Israel used Mossad and the US used the CIA to supply children to wealthy people as rewards and blackmail.

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  • [–] -4 points 5 months ago (10 children)

    That's a lot of words for "I'm a pedophile and I want to fuck kids" but you do you I guess.

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  • [–] -5 points 5 months ago* (9 children)

    This is the level of intelligence, or rather, the lack thereof, that I expect from conspiracy theroy whackos

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago (7 children)

    So it's not a conspiracy theory, you're just unable google things.

    Because you're a pedophile. And you desperately want the pedophiles in charge to not ever be held accountable.

    "Oh there's totally not a coordinated global human trafficking ring funded by literally all of the world's wealthiest people and protected by literally the most advanced and expensive militaries on the planet... it was just one guy that suspiciously won the lottery three times during his lifetime and was just pictured with every single rich and powerful person over 40 years."

    You pedos make me sick.

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  • [–] -4 points 5 months ago (6 children)

    Ah yes, the grand googler has hit me with a rando substack article that's filled with ads (placed by the authors btw) trying to fearmonger people into buying gold from them. Skimming through the article, which I'm 99% sure is generated by chatgpt, is literally just a rehash of the wiki article that I posted with no additional information provided.

    There's still NOTHING in the article that you yourself posted that supports ANY of your claims. You don't have a moral high ground when you've proven yourself to be the liar that you're being criticized as. I'm asking you to prove what you said, it's really that simple. You haven't been able to do it, you keep trying to assert that you're right while wagging your finger as if you're a moral authority on anything.

    You can't squirm your way out of this. There's no 4d chess logic, there's no connecting the magical dots, there's no opening your third eye. You either provide sources that directly prove the claims that you made or your failure to do so validates my criticisms of you by default. If you're a conspiracy whacko who's lying and spreading misinformation, then prove me wrong and post your sources. Go claim by claim and spell it out for me, I'll be waiting but I know you won't come up with anything.

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago* (2 children)

    Ignore the evidence, discredit the messenger, and lie through your teeth. Why you so passionate about discrediting pedophiles rings? This isn't Pizza Gate nonsense.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (1 child)

    Ignore the evidence, discredit the messenger, and lie through your teeth.

    This is literally what you're doing. The lack of self awareness is shameless. I didn't ignore shit. The OP made a conspiracy theory statement that I asked to them to explain because they clearly posted conspiracy theory bullshit. They made two specific claims that I called out. First, they specifically said that Epstein was Mossad agent, which they failed to prove. Second, he made a string of lies about the Finders group/cult/movement/whatever. He said that they were Mossad/CIA operations to traffic kids to pedophiles and that this evidence was public and well known. I have very thoroughly demonstrated he's a liar and all his claims are wrong.

    I literally linked the public information in my comment and spelled out how the public information he's talking about directly disproves him and his claims. His comeback was to give a literal chatgpt generated article on some substack that's run by shmucks who are trying to fearmonger people into buying gold and silver from them. Even then, the AI article is literally a restatement of the wiki article it has zero new information that the wiki article didn't have. How do they respond to me calling out their lies? They started calling me a fucking pedophile. That's not ignorance, that's just malicious misinformation.

    It's completely insane that you're even willing to entertain low level conspiracy theory level bullshit as fact, not on the basis of accuracy, but on the basis hatred. Demanding clarity and accuracy is not an endorsement, it's fucking accountability. Do you honestly think that calling out this moron for spreading misinformation means I'm endorsing child rapists? What kind of brain dead notion is that? Fuck Epstein, anybody who's associated with him, and all other child rapists. You they won't get a shred of sympathy from me. Are you really going to stoop so low that you're going to endorse McCarthyist accusations from people who lack basic critical thinking skills? Like what are you even doing?

    The thing is that my request thus far hasn't changed, and it won't change because I'm ultimately in the right. I asked for OP to provide evidence that actually prove their claims as he stated them. I don't want a conspiracy theory justification where I have to connect magical dots that don't exist or open my third eye and see a bigger picture that's not there. Their second claim about the finders has already been debunked, but if they, you, or anybody else can provide real evidence that actually shows that Epstein worked for Mossad or any government agency in an official capacity to traffic kids like they claimed, then please show it to me and I will gladly concede. Until then, I have no reason to believe conspiracy theories on the basis of "dude, trust me."

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    https://politicstoday.org/fbi-informant-claimed-epstein-was-israeli-spy-document-shows/

    This is not conspiracy theory shit, as I said this isn't fucking Pizza Gate. We have several people who are familiar with him all saying it sure looks like it.

    Accusation is not proof but there is additional evidence.

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/2/19/israel-installed-security-at-epsteins-manhattan-apartment-for-ex-pm-barak

    Elements in Isreal had much deeper ties than they would like to admit. Surprise surprise, no one wants to claim this guy after he was exposed.

    I doubt Isreal trained him, but there is strong intelligence that he was an tool of Mossad and the CIA as in he did work for them. He provided material support to advance the interested of Israel and the USA around the world. Perhaps you could say he was just self serving, but that is exactly the type of person these agencies use.

    https://www.democracynow.org/2025/11/12/epstein_israel

    Perhaps what we are looking at is an individual that is both being used and using the USA, Russia, and Israel. I find it strange after all he did for Israel that they would say he actually worked against their wishes.

    https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2026/03/03/do-the-epstein-files-show-he-was-working-for-russia-or-another-intelligence-agency

    And it is not just other people's words. Epstein bragged that he was a fixer, able to create and repair relations with different cultures and that he did work for Israel, Russia, Saudi Arabia, and the USA.

    https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/jeffrey-epstein-steven-hoffenberg-intelligence-agencies-spy-1197708/

    Going back to his plea deal in 2008 when Alex Costa said that he was told to back off (which he did) Epstein's prosecution because Epstein was involved in ongoing intelligence agency actions. He later denied he said this.

    https://www.thenation.com/article/society/jeffrey-epstein-cia-ties/

    We have good evidence that Epstein had compromised Ehud Barak. Israel and US intelligence would be aware of this.

    https://www.trtworld.com/article/16616743

    We also know he had strong connections to the CIA meeting with William Burns who went to director of the CIA.

    https://www.wsj.com/us-news/jeffrey-epstein-calendar-cia-director-goldman-sachs-noam-chomsky-c9f6a3ff

    Pretending this is a "bro trust me" situation based upon the available information is a gross mischaraterization. I would even say that the conspiracy theory at this point is that Epstein didn't have the connections that everyone says, including himself, he had.

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  • [–] 35 points 5 months ago (6 children)

    One thing all Abrahamic faiths hold in common, dear and close to their hearts, is the molestation and torture of children.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    I think it has something to do with removing women from authority. Makes it easier to get at them kids.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago*

    I think your getting close, but off the mark.

    Its about Patriarchal society. They think they own their women and children and therefore think they are justified doing anything to them.

    The Divine Feminine Movement cannot come soon enough.

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