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[–] 113 points 5 months ago (11 children)

And yet I can explicitly type the exact parameters for an item I'm looking for into Google or Amazon and I get flooded with bullshit that is not that thing.

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  • [–] 65 points 5 months ago* (7 children)

    “Oh you’re looking for a red KitchenAid blender type # 5KSB2073EER? Great! Here’s that 4 CD set of traditional Turkmenistan folk music you wanted.”

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  • [–] 31 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Sorry all these other companies paid us more to put their shit in front of your eyeballs than the one who sells the thing you want.

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  • [–] 9 points 5 months ago

    Amazon's primary revenue driver is selling the top spots in their search results. So it's no surprise that when you search for something, you almost never see what you're looking for. They have literally created a system that intentionally shows you what you're NOT looking for in order for them to make a profit.

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  • [–] 10 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Ok. I'm adding that to my cart but I'm mad about it.

    Now show me the manual for the fucking blender you asshole.

    Blender tutorial noises

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago

    DDG is getting worse but it's not this bad. I've tried Kagi's free sample (about search 30/100 rn) and it's excellent. I still don't know if I'll buy a subscription to it but I like the incentive model.

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  • [–] 15 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    That's because what you're searching for is what you definitely want, so they know you're likely click/buy it. But if throw a bunch of crap that you maybe might want before you get to it, maybe you'll buy some of that too. It's like how supermarkets throw a bunch of junk food in a checkout lane, maybe you'll get tempted while you're forced to stand there even though you just wanted to buy laundry detergent.

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  • [–] 54 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    I've been looking for a new job. Now I get ads for jobs. That's actually nice, were it not that they're always the same five shitty jobs every time.

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  • [–] 29 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    I tried getting directions to a restaurant from Google Maps yesterday and it routed me inefficiently through an intersection with a paid sponsor restaurant. This was the biggest enshittification of direction apps I’ve experienced. Not only did it give me worse directions, but what are the chances I need to stop at the paid restaurant when I am trying to get to another restaurant in 20 minutes?

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  • [–] 19 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    what are the chances I need to stop at the paid restaurant when I am trying to get to another restaurant in 20 minutes?

    That's not the purpose though. This puts this other restaurant in your head for some other time. You may think you're not actually affected by this tactic, but decades of research shows that, even when aware of this, it still fucking works.

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  • [–] 17 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    I'm glad they convinced me to turn my mattress purchase into a mattress collection.

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  • [–] 16 points 5 months ago* (10 children)

    If they have all this marketing intel about me why do they deluge me with ads for major appliances right after I buy them? I mean how likely am I gonna want another dishwasher the same week?

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  • [–] 13 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    I think them having all this info about you, is a way to get advertisers to pay them more for the targeted ads.

    It's not to help you or the advertisers, but themselves.

    And I assume not a single advertiser has gone up to them with a well grounded: "bruh, dafuq are you doing showing fridge ads to the guy that just bought a fridge from us... that's not what we are paying you for."

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (6 children)

    I don't believe they actually have the information that you bought the thing.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (5 children)

    I don't see why not though - if they know which urls I visit, they should know about order confirmations. If companies are sharing all my browsing patterns why wouldn't they share what I bought?

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (4 children)

    As far as I know, Google and Facebook do not collect every single URL you visit. It wouldn't be impossible for Chrome to do this, but I think it would be public information because of the nature and volume of that information - even though efforts can be made to disguise what it collects. Facebook basically has no such ability because it collects information by having a little thing on each page, with the agreement of the page owner, and I don't think that thing receives any info from a successful sale (as opposed to "person browsed this product's page)

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

    They don't have to collect them as in saving them, they just have to collect information about activity that would interest marketers who buy the data. "Searched for dishwashers"... "Ordered dishwasher"...

    Then the marketers could process the data and go, Lovable Sidekick searched for dishwashers but didn't buy one, maybe he's still looking, let's send him ads for dishwashers. Or, Lovable Sidekick bought a dishwasher, let's not waste ad impressions showing him dishwasher ads, let's show ads for dishwasher detergent. I mean, if I were part of that whole circus that's how I would try to approach it.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (2 children)

    But to do that, Google would need to collect and save save and process every URL you go to. It would need to snoop not only that you looked at the dishwasher, but that you clicked "add to basket" and then "order" and then completed the order without ever removing it from the basket. That means analysing not just the pages you visit but also the underlying requests that control the basket and order process.

    There's nothing it can do more minimally, and as far as I know it doesn't do this.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago* (1 child)

    Yes, it does seem like a lot of processing. Now google any word and see how fast it returns 200,000 results. Consider that Google delivered the same experience to millions of other people at that same time. Then consider what size drop in what size bucket the processing you described really amounts to.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    It can process all of that easily on its servers. But there should then be evidence of this very large quantity of data being exported out of Chrome and uploaded to Google, which I don't believe there is.

    There are some other difficulties, too: no two shopping platforms encode "user completed the order" in the exact same way, so performing that analysis is actually quite hard and not nearly 100% accurate, even if you can get the complete browsing data.

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  • [–] 16 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    I wish Google would put so all their sitting soying spying to God good is use to improve their text prediction on their site swipe input.

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago

    I've actually turned off my autocomplete lately. It's become too annoying.. I'd rather make "your fingers are too fat"-mistakes than all the "God" and "ducking" every time. People only have to understamd about 80% of the words you write in order to understand the message. Si, a swnwnve kike thud id not thw ens og the wprld.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Yeah it's worked like it was vibe-coded by AI since long before LLMs became mainstream (I wonder if that's bc they are the predecessors of LLMs in the first place?).

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  • [–] 12 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Air conditioning filters. I need air conditioner filters. My air conditioner filters are filthy. I need to buy air conditioner filters

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago*

    So i have been thinking about it and I often wonder if it is the reverse. They subtly influence us to want a thing. Once you’re hooked and consciously want it, you start noticing it.

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    As if they'd need to actually hear you say stuff. They know what you think before you do

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    ... hyper-realistic bedazzled dildo

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  • [–] 14 points 5 months ago* (3 children)

    I still think it's bogus unless I see clear proof of it. That would imply your Instagram app somehow needs to bypass the kernel which let's the system know when the microphone is being used (some OS let's you know when mic or app is accessed real-time). That seems like an awfully open backdoor to microphone access.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    Happens a lot when you talk about burgers or pizza and you get an ad for whatever you're talking about.
    You can say that's coincidence, and yes these chains do a lot of ads.
    Then one day I'm looking at food to order (I have all the ad/tracking blockers) while my GF is on her laptop doing something completely different.
    I mention how bad restaurant X is. (there's only one, not a chain)
    And in 2 minutes she gets the ad for that particular restaurant.
    Really, history has shown over and over that you can't trust tech companies.

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  • [–] 10 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    The first few seasons of Bleach were absolutely blessed.

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    also, using Google to search for a term/subject while watching a YouTube video that mentioned it

    I searched the first four generic characters of something I'd never searched before, and the full subject popped right up as the suggestion

    either the phone is listening, or they're cataloguing video content subjects. either way, building tons of data points on you

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Where is this original meme from? Bleach?

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago*

    The last two times I mentioned Little Sleazers, the LC app pushed notifications for random ass deals. Like immediately; not even some time later that I could think perhaps it was coincidental. "Little Ceasar's sucks" phone dings.

    Also Pete Holmes new standup special talks about this. Makes me wonder how many people in that audience got ads for giant black jelly dildos specifically made for ass play. 🤔

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago

    GOOG giving it to META seems apropos considering how they're respectively doing with their AI crap.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    I just need to buy my plane tickets for noodling about with no direction of specific importance. Be mad if there was a wedding there too wouldn't it

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    Been thinking, this is a common trope in anime (using glasses/other objects to try to hear through a barrier), does this actually work?

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    "Thinking about buying a machine that turns AI and Tech CEOs into fertilizer."

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (1 child)

    But good luck getting anyone to sell you a dildo.

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  • [–] 0 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    I mean, I got scooped last year. I am not much of a songwriter, and I had a great idea for an album. Rapid fire wrote off a couple dozen songs in a week.

    Thing is, I'm a specialist. Sure I wrote the book on my instrument but that's just technique. Writing songs, that's a whole different game. I have written only one song good enough to let other people hear. So like, having my songs scooped before I could publish sucked, but what was worse was the way it happened. It was my favorite band. And they didn't rip me off wholesale, the album they released after I was working on my songs, it was conceptually the same album. Like Jesus fuck John get out of my head.

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Are you saying you wrote a song and Facebook secretly listened in through your phone and gave the song to your favourite band and they released it? Because that sounds like you have serious mental delusions. This does not happen.

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