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The nerve of some people, raised in a barn or somethin stg 😀 (lemmy.world)
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[–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

Clementine or Heidi?

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    • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Reminded me of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGR8ebzklkA

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    [–] 33 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Fuck I miss just having the game's executable.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    That’s gog, itch, or epic

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  • [–] 33 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Definitely not Epic? No idea where you got that. They downstall like Steam does. GOG and Itch, yes. I got Micro Mages off of itch and its a cool game.

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    • [–] 65 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I hate Epic Games simply on the principle that Tim Sweeney is an asshole. He despises Steam and yet he can't make a better storefront. He sues Google and Apple so he can drive his little exotic cars around the block. Also he hates Linux gamers for whatever reason. No problem man, I don't want to play Shitnite anyway.

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    • [–] 24 points 1 year ago

    At least they didn't say the Microsoft Store

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    [–] 49 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Collecting

    free

    games

    creates

    active

    accounts.

    Fuck Epic, provide better service or fuck off. Using money to kill competition means they will turn around as soon as they can.

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  • [–] -3 points 1 year ago* (5 children)

    Don't care that much as long as I get my free games. Also, nobody has the money to kill Valve. Maybe MS, but I doubt even they are ready to spend that much

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    They don't have to kill Valve to appease publishers and sign shop-exclusive deals, making the PC gaming experience worse for everyone.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    "Using money to kill competition" you said though

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    • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    My most played games lately are Vintage Story and Factorio. Both bought directly from the developers through their own website.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    How are you liking vintage story? I've been trying to get into it but struggling lol

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Pretty much finished all the content except the most recent update. Probably 1000+ hours, certainly 100s in it. Didn't struggle too much but I have played it back since before seasons and food spoilage was in the game and I played a lot of TFC modded MC before I found VS which some of the mechanics are quite heavily inspired by.

    Recently tried playing as a nomad for a bit, kept on the same save but dropped all my stuff and reset my character and went hunter class. Then went on a 100km expedition down through the warmer biomes and grabbed a bunch of seeds, like soybean and rice that can be a bit harder to get in the more temperate biomes. Took those back home with me.

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    • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I have plenty of epic free games. And I prefer to install fitgirl version of a game rather than epic's one.

    I don't think I've ever installed any of those free games.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    What is fitgirl

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    she is a repacker of pirated games.

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    • [+] 15 points 1 year ago (8 children)
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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    I spent ages collecting the free games. Then the Steam Deck came along and I changed my PC to Linux. Then I repurchased all the games I wanted to play on Steam anyway. Then I don't have to set up Epic or worry about save game sync.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    I am gaming happily on Linux though. Using both Epic and Steam. πŸ‘

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I know Epic can be set up. I just found it easier to spend a bit of money rather than time to set up Epic. I've distro hopped a bunch of times and needed to reinstall Steam OS on my Deck once. It's just more convenient to get all my games on Steam.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    spend a bit of money rather than time to set up Epic

    πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

    1. Install Heroic
    2. Log in to Epic

    I dunno man. Not sure I would re-buy everything if I were you, but it's fine. I can relate to having everything in one place, for sure!

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    • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Paul Rudd is making a new movie?

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    • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    itch.io

    Henrycavill.meme

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    [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Even on one of epics own games, Rocket League, the experience is far better on Steam if you were lucky enough to buy it when it was still listed there. Epic launcher is a piece of hot garbage, and the free game aren't worth it to me. I also wonder if there are other consequences to this pricing model, similar to concerns about gamepads.

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    [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    The worst part of all this is epic used to be good, they made great games, supported modders, released tons of free content, went the extra mile etc. Then they went Microsoft and packed Games for Widows Live, which was so bad it killed the services subscription and the rest is history.....I wish they were.

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    [–] 15 points 1 year ago* (6 children)

    Epic gives away good free games from to time. While Steam is my primary, I still hop into Epic to play my free copies of Hell Let Loose and Fall Guys from time to time.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Yeah they periodically lose private information, such as adresses, email adresses and credit card information. But that's the price you have to pay to get a "free" game.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    I could see that as being an annoyance if I had given them any payment information. I was already caught up in a major data leak that exposed my SSN and address over a decade ago, so my shit is out there and all I can do is monitor at this point anyways.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I can get the same games from the high seas for the same price and not provide Epic with an active account with which to entice investors.

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    • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (31 children)

    G*mers when you don't use their monopolistic service: 😑

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago

    I've never had issues with getting refunds through steam. I've never successfully gotten a refund through epic.

    you can enjoy your free games if you want, but it isn't a better service and pretending otherwise is delusional.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (23 children)

    Which one is bringing exclusives to PC and working against Linux gaming?

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago (22 children)

    Which one killed competition with anti consumer practices in the 2000's?

    Which one popularised micro transactions?

    Which one popularised loot boxes and gambling?

    Which one popularised the current "Sell now, fix later" model

    Which one bricks older titles because of it's DRM requirements

    (The answer is Steam btw, I know I'll need to spell it out for G*mers)

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    It's not even the worst. If Epic goes down, you have lost everything. If Steam goes down you have lost everything. If Gog goes down you have lost nothing (because you have a backup I hope).

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    If Steam goes down I have no problems torrenting games I've already paid for

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (10 children)

    Which one killed competition with anti consumer practices in the 2000's?

    Epic has even more anti-consumer practices.

    Which one popularised micro transactions?

    Does Epic ban micro transactions?

    Which one popularised loot boxes and gambling?

    None of this available on EGS either?

    Which one popularised the current "Sell now, fix later" model

    "The service that was around first did these things that the service that came later is also doing, that makes the service that came later better for some reason!"

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  • [–] -3 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    Imagine being so Stockholmed that you miss the point that bad.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    Imagine being so full of yourself that you think saying nothing has any value.

    Fun fact: the term "Stockholm syndrome" originates from a hostage situation in which the authorities did not seem to care about the safety of the hostages at all, they regularly put the hostages in danger and the hostage takers were frequently trying to protect the hostages from the actions of the authorities.
    In light of that, the hostages having more empathy towards their captors makes perfect sense. However ignorant people who did not understand the details of the event coined the term "Stockholm syndrome" instead of actually listening to the hostages or trying to understand a different point of view.

    Your use of the term feels very appropriate.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    You are literally saying that the Epic store doing the same scummy things as Steam, makes it worse than Steam.

    This is why gaming is in the shape it's in.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (6 children)

    No, you were literally saying Epic was better than Steam because Epic is doing the same scummy things but just wasn't around when Steam started doing it.

    I never made any claims as to whether I felt those practices are problematic or not, I just pointed out that they both do it so it's irrelevant in the comparison.

    Epic is worse than Steam because of its aggressively anti-consumer practices like paid exclusives.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    No, you were literally saying Epic was better than Steam

    Point to where I said that.

    paid exclusives

    The same thing Steam did to secure its monopoly.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Point to where I said that.

    Right here: https://lemmy.world/comment/18163814

    The same thing Steam did to secure its monopoly.

    That's not what the word monopoly means

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I was listing all the bad things Steam does and never mentioned Epic. That's on you projecting so much.

    Monopolies are defined by having a large enough market share, even if that ain't the dictionary definitions you Steamboys cling so tightly too.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I was listing all the bad things Steam does and never mentioned Epic. That's on you projecting so much.

    You used the phrase "which one" a lot. That is incoherent nonsense unless you are talking about at least 2 entities. "Which one" was the second entity?

    even if that ain't the dictionary definition

    So not what that word means.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    The "which one" was in reference to the original comment. Which was about Epic.

    So not what that word means.

    Words can have multiple meanings in different contexts.

    Dictionaries generally (because each one is going to have a slightly different definition) define it as having complete control over a market.

    Whereas a lot of the monopoly laws and departments define it as having over a certain percentage of the market share, even if it isn't 100%

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    The β€œwhich one” was in reference to the original comment. Which was about Epic.

    So we were talking about epic. Glad we cleared that up.

    Dictionaries generally (because each one is going to have a slightly different definition) define it as having complete control over a market.

    So it's not a Monopoly then.

    Whereas a lot of the monopoly laws and departments define it as having over a certain percentage of the market share, even if it isn’t 100%

    And seeing as Valve appears to not be running afoul of these laws, not a Monopoly then.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (5 children)

    If they killed competition they did a terrible job as there is more now then ever.

    Microsoft popularised micro transactions, however they were never used, but DLC which they also popularised along with Sega and Sony adopted that name. Microtranactions were renting software where every time you opened the software or used a specific feature you would be charged a part of a cent, i.e. microtransactions

    Loot boxes came from MMOs. The gambling thing Valve has certainly been a leader in.

    Sell now fix later, EA and Ubisoft.

    Anything with DRM can stop older titles, Steam included. However this is normally after decades of use. This is why many people buy Single player games on GOG.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    If they killed competition they did a terrible job as there is more now then ever

    There were so many more platforms, now lost to time from G*mer who never knew any different and think 4 is a lot. IGN even had one.

    Loot boxes came from MMOs

    https://www.vg247.com/the-harsh-history-of-gaming-microtransactions-from-horse-armor-to-loot-boxes

    but the first shot at them on the Western side of things was Valve's Team Fortress 2. In June 2011, Valve transitioned the game to a free-to-play business model after the launch of the Mann-conomy update in 2010, which introduced crates and item trading. MMOs that fell on hard times, like Star Trek Online and Lords of the Rings Online, switched to the model when they went free-to-play as well.

    Sell now fix later, EA and Ubisoft.

    Steam early access, and greenlight.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    IGN still has one, humble bundle. I'm familiar with the other digital stores like fileplanet, stardock etc, they all sold limited items, as did Steam at the time. There is more then 4.... You might want to count again.

    Note how it says on the western side....loot boxes were already in MMOs starting with Maple Story, this is how they payed for the free to play.... Which also came from MMOs. You didn't have to use loot boxes in TF2, you could just buy the item which funded the game and the community members who made those items. It allowed modders to move from a passion project to having a career.

    Sell now fix later.... No that's not what early access is. That system which was already in use by other platforms again.... Sigh.... Was a way for players to invest in games. It allowed many huge games to fund their development like Rimworld, Factorio, Minecraft, Baulders Gate 3 etc.

    I'm getting the idea you are some young kid who doesn't actually know the industry at all let alone about Valve.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    You are trying so hard to twist words to avoid saying "Paid mods" and "Paid beta access"

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Referring to Epic I presume?

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    ah yes the famous monopoly, the epic game store

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    The comment says monopolistic. Epic games does exclusives on PC. Does steam do this? Which one is monopolistic?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    I get what you're trying to say but that's not what monopolistic means.

    and comparing a new entrant to an established near-monopoly is ridiculous. does steam do this? no, why would it, most games are pretty much already exclusive to steam anyway. that's not an apt comparison.

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    • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    I only ever shop on Epic if the discount is too large to ignore, which happens very infrequently.

    I've collected so many free games I will never touch though.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I have been doing it for years now. Every thursday. I think im somewhere near 300 games now? Games I've purchased from them myself is 2, lol. The amount of free games I've played is like 5 and normally very briefly. I don't think the model is working.

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    • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    What, no love for Prime Games (or whatever it's called now)?

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    No love for Amazon

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