cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/47684349

Another Trumper full of regret.

https://gothamist.com/news/why-many-asian-american-trump-voters-chose-zohran-mamdani-in-nycs-primary

"I liked his policies, mainly his support for education and affordable housing, said Shirley Wong, 70, of Bensonhurst, referring to Mamdani. "He seems to listen to us."

But less than a year ago, Wong cast her ballot for Trump. She cited the influx of migrants in her neighborhood, as well as the cost of living under President Joe Biden. But now, Wong said she regretted voting for Trump, citing the Big Beautiful Bill's projected cuts to Medicaid

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[–] 52 points 1 year ago (1 child)

It doesn’t matter to me until it directly affects me.

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    An alarming number of Americans (and people around the world) just vote on vibes. That's the only way you can explain voting for a fascist one election and immediately pivoting to a democratic socialist.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    This is true, but I have a better explanation for this case: people hate centrists.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    It's even worse than that. Very, very few people are actually centrists. Like, .1% of the population are probably true moderates.

    The parties are coalitions representing people of varied opinions. And people rarely agree with the parties on every issue. But most people fall generally on one side or the other. However, some folks end up highly misaligned to the party issue assignments. For example, what party is the natural home for a militantly homophobic militant atheist? They think both priests and gay people should be sent to reeducation camps. Where do they belong?Neither party really. This person would consider themselves a centrist, even though they have nutjob fringe views from both the right and left. This is an extreme example, but it illustrates what most centrists actually are. They're not lobotomized zombies with no passion or beliefs. They have strong beliefs that simply don't align with the party coalitions.

    But this reality is not how "centrist" politicians govern. Instead they try to place themselves at the exact center of every issue. Very very few human beings actually think that way. So they inevitably come across as highly inauthentic. People believe in things. If you try to walk the dead middle, you're telling people you believe in nothing. You become a living example of the uncanny valley. And people feel gross just listening to you.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    Combining the two: centrists have bad vibes because they always have an authenticity problem. They position themselves against change, but then happily go where the Overton window takes them (see Biden's outgoing border bill). They are for nothing except what they think is popular at the moment, which is usually out of date information, and that comes across as fake and focused on accumulating power rather than solving problems. You don't need to be a policy wonk to see that centrists will say anything to get your vote and do nothing to solve your problems

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  • [–] 52 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Mamdani LITERALLY converts Trump voters into non-trump-voters.

    Of COURSE the democrat party hates him; he exposes their grift and gets their prey to pay attention!

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    He's ruining their plan to lose on purpose

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Precisely. They figured out how to rake in billions of dollars through losing elections. All the money they raise, poof: gone! Gone to "strategists" and "consultants" and "advertising agencies" and all manner of other bullshit that are just legitimate-sounding names for fences who launder the money for them.

    It's like the plot of The Producers:
    "you can make more money with a flop than a hit!"

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  • [–] 69 points 1 year ago* (5 children)

    at least she's realized and admits her mistake and changed her voting patterns. a huge portion will never have that self-awareness

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  • [–] 43 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    She didnt do that though. She voted for a cunt promising to cut shit she needed and then didnt change her mind until the exact thing she needs was cut. Thats not really learning in the way you need to learn to have a functioning society. Its still narcissism and individualism.

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago*

    Trump promised he wouldn't cut Medicaid. The thing you should fault her with is that she still didn't get that Trump lies about everything after demonstrating that for his entire public life and an entire presidential administration.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago*

    Edit: this picture is getting so much mileage this year.

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    "Imma vote for this dude bc he's gonna get rid of all of the people I hate.

    [scary thought]

    He won't come for me, bc I'm better than those people."

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Right wing voters would rather vote for a communist than a moderate liberal.

    Take notes, Democrats. If you want to steal the right vote, run socialists

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    Nah, that's fake. The point of the Democrats isn't for the center right party to win. It's for the center right party to lose. Being center right is just a means to the end of losing. Because no matter how right wing they are, they won't be able to do as much damage as the neo Nazi party. And that's what the point is.

    They're only shunning Mamdani performatively. It's sin signalling. They're doing it to be hated. They might win New York, and that's an acceptable sacrifice if it helps them lose the rest of the country.

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    [–] 16 points 1 year ago

    She’ll regret it even more when ICE snatches her up.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (13 children)

    Shirley is a stupid cunt and a racist. I'll happily support her voting for Mamdani, but she's still a piece of shit and I hope she knows it and it haunts her. It doesn't, but I wish it did.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    This sounds like someone learning. It’s incredibly hard to admit you were wrong and do better. Don’t shame her for it.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    She hasn't learned anything. She discovered that her vote is now going to affect her. If it weren't specifically for the Medicaid cuts, she wouldn't be showing any remorse and would still be hoping Trump will take care of her brown person problem. She hasn't admitted that she was wrong, she's finding out that actions have consequences.

    Fuck her. She deserves to be shamed just like every other Trump voter. Remember when being pro Nazi got you in hot water because of the shame it brought? We need to get back to that.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Sure, if you want to give them a reason to double down again instead of coming around.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    I'm tired of trying to cater with these fucks. She has shown zero remorse for her beliefs, just that it's affecting her. She has no intention of coming around, and if she does, I was never going to be the voice that gets her there, unless she happens to stumble into this thread. I doubt think Fox news or OAN or whoever is regurgitating this to their base, so it's a moot point.

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  • [+] -8 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Let he who has not sinned cast the first stone.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I'm not pretending to be a saint, but my moral compass is better than Shirley's, and I know that from the couple of sentences she said publicly. Also, God's fake and sins are a bullshit social construct. I throw as many metaphorical stones at stupid cunts that I want.

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  • [–] -3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    It's a reference to a silly story where the lesson is to not be a judgemental shithead just because someone else fucked up.

    Yeah it's the bible. I don't care if God is real or not, nor your opinion on it. I also use references from the writings of Vonnegutt, the music Dolly Parton, and 90s anime.

    Because you can get moral lessons from fiction. We do it all the time. My reference isn't even that deep. But somehow the ten word literary cudgel I bludgeoned you with still didn't make the point. It's a cautionary statement.

    You are acting like the crowd of shitheals that wanted to stone a woman to death, just like in the biblical story. That's not a good look nor is it a good indication of your 'moral compass'. Sorry I thought you could infer that from my one sentence quote from a very well distributed piece of literature.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    I never expressed any desire for harm to Shirley. I want guilt to eat her alive. You're also claiming she fucked up like it was an accident, and it wasn't. She's a shitty person and Idgaf if it's a bad look to express that out loud. If she were to come out and genuinely try to repent for her actions and express true remorse, I'd say she has learned something and hopefully will do better, but that's not what's happening.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago

    So she voted for the Wong candidate and now regrets it. Cry me a fuckin river.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    What support for education is this lady hallucinating about?
    Edit: stay in school kids

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Bensonhurst has always been a heavily immigrant area - now it’s Asians, before it was Italians and former ussr. It’s kind of weird that she has a problem with it….

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  • I prefer the corpse to the mongoloid republican voter voting against ALL of our self interests.

    Rest in piss maga moron.

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