The US is truly a kakistocracy.
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Has anybody thought about their plight? Like, they have no servants here. How is that living?!
As somebody who's been to South Africa, this is really funny to me. Especially considering my heritage is all-purpose dough and nobody bothered to genocide me while I was there.
South Africa has a lot of problems, genocide ain't one of them.
How are previous comments about how stupid this is not automatically included?
When does Die Antwoord arrive?
he's bringing in his own voters and people to give guns too. they aren't American and will have zero issues in shooting civilians. he will ramp up is assault on citizens.
Is that blanket fear of a particular group of immigrants I detect?
random South Africans that are suddenly wanting to go to USA, AND is being promoted by donald when he's currently attacking and deporting minorities without due process?
Yeh, but it's not an issue with South Africans... it's an issue with donald supporting it... if he supports it, chances are it's bad
don't misunderstand me here.. I have zero issues with immigration or people from vArious cultures. it's literally the best way hands down, to process the human race to be better globally... but when a tyrannical president, who is known for nonstop corruption, and waging war against citizens promotes the very thing he is actively fighting... then why would I not give it a blanket bad?
if donald was not involved, I'd have no issue with it.
My guy, two of the literal evilest people on the planet are South African (Elon Musk and Peter Thiel).
Edit: sorry, I guess Thiel only briefly lived there as a child. He describes it as formative experience.
And it’s because they’re South African? Is it like in their DNA or something? I don’t understand.
Nope, just products of their environment — it's very very unlikely that a white person who lived in apartheid South Africa will be a decent person. That + Trump's endorsement means you can go ahead and assume that these are the wrong South Africans to be bringing into the country.
I take issue with someone lumping an entire ethnic group together and commenting on “their” tendencies. You should too.
No, thanks — fuck the people that Trump brought in the country. There is no white genocide in South Africa, you are a moron for thinking their asylum is legitimate.
Edit: Even South African officials have blasted the 'Mission South Africa' for being outrageous and racist. Feel free to die on this hill.
Thanks, but you can keep those opinions to yourself and stop putting words in my mouth. All I claimed was that lumping an entire ethnic group in order to talk about how they all act is wrong. Sorry for holding that opinion?
All I claimed was that lumping an entire ethnic group in order to talk about how they all act is wrong.
Your opinion is ill informed or shitty, look into South African apartheid and then take a quick examination of the thirty years post apartheid. Spoilers, systemic racism there didn't end — white South Africans still earn on average three times more than Black South Africans. You might be wondering how much of the South African population white people make up? The answer is 8 percent. Guess who Trump is fast tracking into the country? That's right, white wealthy South Africans.
This has nothing to do with bigotry, it has everything to do with evil people extracting wealth from South Africa. If you can't understand why that's wrong then there isn't anything else to discuss.
So they're importing a bunch of racists from South Africa. Who will vote for fascist Rs. Isn't that what they accuse Ds of doing?
Every accusation ...
I'm more interested in how many of these people are winding up working for ICE.
How long does it take to go through the refugee process to become a citizen? They can’t vote until then, right?
I mean now we're just in fantasy land. No one has offered the option to buy citizenship like that. Trump offered to let people buy green cards or whatever fancy name he gave them (still a green card).
After that it takes at minimum 5 years. No indication that is being sped up in any way for anyone. It's not even possible to speed it up under current law, not that the administration wouldn't try. But in this case they've given no indication of doing so.
The green card thing was really just a pathetic attempt to collect revenue since taxes have been slashed to untenable levels. Wealthy people wouldn't even want citizenship. They vote with money, not with ballots.
Not that these Boers are really rich or anything and there's not enough of them to effect voting even if they could. This is virtue signalling to white supremacists. In fact I'd bet a lot of them will leave soon or end up homeless. They're being brought in without any plans or preparation and no job opportunities waiting for them. Their usefulness to the Trump admin is merely as a photo prop and then they're on their own.
But oh well sucks to suck. Hope you all end up homeless back in South Africa too because a black family moved into your house while you were gone.
I just don't understand the need to fantasize about things that have not happened and that have no indication they will happen when we already have a mountain of very real problems occurring
Using the max number from the article of 17,500 people, that's not enough to make any real difference. Maybe if they went through a major effort to settle them in one or two close congressional districts.
Also they can't vote for at least 5 years after they arrive assuming they all rush to get their citizenship.
But would they even be eligible to vote?
Why are they racist?
Agreed, we don't know that they are racist. Like most anywhere, you are very likely to find a mix of both racist, anti-racist, and everyone in between. However, given relatively recent historical context, they are likely to have a higher proportion of racists with a higher degree of severity.
The real winners in all of this are the people of South Africa who no longer have to deal with these racist pieces of shit
Elon's slow walk invasion. Part of a side agreement he and trump have. Everyone step right up! We're selling it all!!
Please publish their names and addresses so that we, their new neighbors, may properly welcome them.
That's exactly what we need… ffs.
Reminder for anyone who doesn't know, it's highly likely that the Q account on 8chan was a white South Afrikaner before the account was highjacked by Ron Watkins and his father Jim Watkins (owners of the image board). Allegedly.
Man, I watched The Second Civil War for the first time a couple months ago, and thought it was kind of an interesting take on what issues might be prevalent today. I thought the mass immigration of certain groups to appease political groups seemed a little far fetched though. I guess nothing is satire anymore. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Second_Civil_War
These neo-confederates will make for shitty soldiers. The world will be better someday, once their plots are filled and promptly forgotten.
What are they getting for an ID as "refugees"?
Real question. We need answers.
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Look into the origins of "white genocide" and great replacement type con-piracy theories and remember that, somehow, every accusation is a confession.
Not quite go back where you came from but if the US is paying for it what is the problem?
because they don't need refugee status. They're utilizing this as loop hole to circumvent proper methods of immigration. you know like the people who literally pay thousands of dollars to properly immigrate to the US. These people aren't fleeing anything remotely close to an emergency or crisis they're simply immigrating while saving a few bucks in the process.
This is also a very easy way for the current administration to bring in more white people who share the same views and opinions of said administration. it's text book fascism. kick out the colored bring in the right white.
As a South African I can confirm there is zero emergency here. As usual, Trump just prattles off whatever lies fits his needs.
And why should South Africa have to put up with these shitheads? Let them fuck off to fascist America.
Fuck off, man, we already have too many racist shitbags grown domestic. South Africa needs to keep theirs right where they grew 'em.
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They are not refugees, they should immigrate the normal (expensive) way like everyone else and not get a free ride on the American tax payer's dollar. Especially when we have, what, 30,000 refugees from south of the border living in warehouses awaiting a chance to legally immigrate. 50,000? 100,000? Probably even more than that.
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They're escaping South Africa with fortunes made by exploiting the people of South Africa and will suffer no consequences in the US. They stand at least some chance of being punished in their own country (even more so if they're running like this, seems like they can feel the noose tightening), and their money would stay in South Africa to help the country in such a case instead of disappearing into the offshore haven of the US.
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They're friends of people like Musk and Trump, and allowing them to more easily use their money to affect American policy will be worse not just for the US, but the world at large. Letting people with experience running an apartheid regime into the politics of a belligerent war hungry government who has already threatened numerous friendly countries over resources cannot end well.
There isn't an emergency. These are racists kicking our brown people who are following the law (ICE wouldn't be camping outside of immigration courts to abduct people if they actually wanted those breaking the law) and letting in white people just to rub it in.
The problem is that we have quite literally cut off refugees from every other country, including places that actually need it. These people are fleeing a made up crisis.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4g89kkvenqo
US has let in 4,499 refugees since October - all but three were South African
(As of April, so obviously more SA "refugees" now)
It's using US taxpayers' money. The US isn't paying for it, their taxpayers are.
Well, at least the budgeting of this farce doesn't seem to be eked out to enrich the Trump family any further.
That $100mil comes out at around $14000-$6000 depending if it covers only the first 7500 or the grand total of 17500 people. Which is roughly ballpark for such a relocation.
Mind you I'm not suggesting this is a good thing, not even for a moment, just saying that the budget seems to be more or less in line, so it doesn't seem to be being pocketed.
How's it work with the ally situation if your country is under attack from within and not an obvious external attack?
Ah yes, mass importing immigrants that will vote for the administration that brought them here - i knew Donald Dump was right! How could the democrats do this again! /s
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