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Brian Thompson was a CEO killer. Mangione is accused of being a CEO-killer.
However, Carro ruled that a second search of the backpack at a police station was lawful and that items recovered then -- including a gun, silencer, USB drive and red notebook -- would be admissible.
Since the police said they stopped violating his rights partway through an illegal search then the rest of the stuff still counts apparently.
The evidence could be illegally planted, so that entire backpack is a fishy business, because the police officers turned their cameras off for some reason.
How did they miss a handgun on the first search? That was the thing they most wanted to find. It just seems impossibly sloppy, or there was no handgun to begin with.
Maybe they all went into the bathroom together all at once? Sometimes a man or group of men just need a handjob. If they want to collectively admit that they messed up evidence collection so they could do a circle jerk, I'll allow it. Otherwise its pretty obviously evidence tampering, which is a crime.
Freaking lmao. I hope Brian Thompson is looking up and realizing how much of a piece of shit he was in life
Hope he's enjoying that lava sauna
even so much, that his wife wanted nothing to do with him, they were estranged by the time of the "alleged shooting", plus she must be elated since she wont have a messy divorce battle.
Either Reuters they changed the title, or this was editorialized? Some was tossed, but not all.
Current Title: Judge denies accused CEO killer Mangione's bid to toss gun, notebook evidence
Carro suppressed some evidence found in Mangione's backpack during his arrest in Pennsylvania, ruling police unlawfully searched the bag without a warrant. That evidence included a loaded handgun magazine, cell phone and computer chip.
The judge nevertheless approved a second search of the backpack at a police station, and said items recovered there are admissible. Those items included a gun that prosecutors say matches the murder weapon and the notebook with writings about wanting to "wack" an insurance executive.
The judge nevertheless approved a second search of the backpack at a police station, and said items recovered there are admissible.
God imagine how much time it must save judges when the police do an illegal search first every time and only ask for a warrant after they know without a doubt it will get evidence.
They changed the title. I always copy and paste the exact title instead of letting it auto fill
It really is great when the incompetence of law enforcement is beneficial to the community.
Huge fucking win. I was assuming the worst that they'd allow the illegal search as evidence.
Not that huge. Only some of it is disallowed. The gun and journal are still allowed.
Still bullshit, they shouldn't allow anything found in the bag because they arrested him based on that illegal search, but this is still a big win. It omits large amounts of evidence.
Especially since that whole "fruit of the poisoned tree" thing should mean everything that led from the illegal search should be thrown out.
Haha, if only that were regularly applied.
Any reasonable jury will disagree. Not even actors would agree to be the jury that would rule in the gov'ts favor.
Alleged killer
Clear case of subsequent searches based on the fruit of the poisoned tree. The only evidence is that backpack.
The forum is clearly NY law would apply, but the judge is trying hard to ignore the initial clearly illegal search. And give the officers every chance to continue doing whatever they'd like to do as long as it seems structured/organized.
The three or eight officers. Both situations, a reasonable person, would assume they are not free to leave. Those three officers would love to see you try!
These officers also broke down a detained suspect by never stop talking at him. And we asking investigative questions and not having a casual unrelated conversation. The rando dude at a McDonalds was being tossed around by the equivalent of a rape gang. There was clear intimidation to elicit continuous conversation after the rando dude said he'd like to remain silent and was not given any chance to do so.
But the biggest question i have is what is the purpose of the Pennsylvania judge approving the search warrant after it's clear as day an illegal search has occurred and the warrant is based on that evidence and only that evidence?!
The political activists pretending to be judges cannot save this case. Any reasonable jury would toss it based on the initial illegal search. At what point were they ever going to be serious about obtaining a search warrant? Really not convinced that is really any concern that Pennsylvania cares about.
The chain of custody is also all over the place. Any jury, in this era, will be hyper aware of chain of custody issues after all the voting machine issues during the last presidential election.
This case is doomed. All they had to do is kick everyone out of that McDonalds, including themselves, and leave the backpack untouched in the McDonalds but in their line of sight. And get that warrant. Especially if they want to be taken seriously that their excuse. There is always an excuse. But their actions and their excuse proves they are a gang, not a law enforcement agency.
Even with body cameras they still manage to mess this situation up .... badly.
Impressive.
Man, its so upsetting that Luigi fucked up so bad. He had such a good setup, he could have got away clean if he hadn't made some really dumb mistakes. It's puzzling that he had so much of his plan on point but made such obvious errors.
Well "Luigi" actually is getting away with it.
And this would have been a flawless crime were it not for one major mistake: trying to pin this murder on our boy Mangione. So it's not over yet. Justice may yet prevail.
I have no idea what you're trying to say.
Mangione is innocent! Such a shame these thugs are trying to put this horrible murder on this man.
What's your take on the whole situation? Your comment makes me curious
Did I misread this or was it basically "the first search we did was illegal but then we took him and his backpack to the police station and searched the same backpack again and will be allowed to use that evidence in trial"?
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